Now Yous Know 2018 Nasw Code Of Ethics (Part 3): Interview Alongside Allan Barsky, Jd, Msw, Phd

[Episode 115] Today's episode of the Social Work Podcast is the 3rd of a three-part serial on the Episode 78 on social operate ethics as well as Episode 76 most social workers inwards court).

In today's episode, Allan as well as I talked most 1.06(g) – professional person affiliations as well as the removal of the intelligence “disability."  Allan talks most the divergence betwixt baseline standards – don’t receive got gender activity amongst your clients, as well as aspirational standards – the ideal globe inwards which, for example, nosotros volition e'er hold out promoting social justice. We talked most department 1.15 – disruption inwards electronic communications. We ended amongst a intelligence of resources, such every bit the gratis NASW webinar on changes to the 2018 NASW Code of Ethics, as well as ways that yous tin render feedback most things that yous similar or don’t similar most the 2018 NASW Code of Ethics. Allan encourages people to hold out involved inwards the many online discussions of ethics. He encouraged folks to read as well as write articles for the Journal of Social Work Values as well as Ethics as well as other sites.


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Bio

Allan Barsky, JD, MSW, PhD, is a professor at Florida Atlantic University where he teaches ethics, conflict resolution, addictions, generalist social work, as well as diversity-informed practice. His bulk credits include “Interprofessional Practice amongst Diverse Populations,” “Conflict Resolution for the Helping Professions” (Oxford University Press), “Clinicians inwards Court” (Guilford), as well as “Ethics & Values inwards Social Work” (Oxford).  Dr. Barsky has chaired the NASW Code of Ethics Task Force as well as the NASW National Ethics Committee. He has taught internationally inwards Israel, the United Kingdom, Canada, the Netherlands, Switzerland, as well as Finland. For farther information, delight run into www.barsky.org

Transcript

Introduction
Jonathan Singer: Hey at that topographic point podcast listeners, Jonathan here. Thanks for coming dorsum for Part 3 of my intelligence amongst Allan Barsky most the 2018 NASW Code of Ethics.

In Part 1 nosotros talked most the history of the Code of Ethics as well as department 1.03(i) electronic searches. In Part 2 Allan as well as I speak most Section 1.04(e) knowing the laws inwards your jurisdiction as well as the ane where your customer lives as well as how that affects practicing across province lines amongst or without technology.  We too speak most 1.05, cultural competence.

In today’s episode, Part 3, nosotros talked most 1.06(g) – professional person affiliations as well as the removal of the intelligence “disability”.  Allan talks most the divergence betwixt baseline standards – don’t receive got gender activity amongst your clients, as well as aspirational standards – the ideal globe inwards which, for example, nosotros volition e'er hold out promoting social justice. We talked most department 1.15 – disruption inwards electronic communications. We ended amongst a intelligence of resources, such every bit the gratis NASW webinar on changes to the 2018 NASW Code of Ethics, as well as ways that yous tin render feedback most things that yous similar or don’t similar most the 2018 NASW Code of Ethics. Allan encourages people to hold out involved inwards the many online discussions of ethics. He encouraged folks to read as well as write articles for the Journal of Social Work Values as well as Ethics as well as other sites.

And now, without farther ado, on to Episode 115 of the Social Work Podcast: 2018 NASW Code of Ethics (Part 3): Interview amongst Allan Barsky, JD, MSW, PhD.

Interview
Jonathan Singer: So, ane of the things that's changed inwards the 2018 Code of Ethics is that the term disability was removed as well as there's a department nether Conflicts of Interest 1.06 (g) as well as it talks most "Social Workers should hold out aware that personal affiliations may increase the likelihood that clients may discovery the Social Workers presence on websites, social media as well as other forms of technology. Social Workers should hold out aware that an involvement inwards electronic communication amongst groups based on race, ethnicity, language, sexual orientation, gender identity or expression, mental or physical ability, religion, immigration status as well as other personal affiliations may impact their powerfulness to operate effectively amongst detail clients." Can yous speak most that one?

Allan Barsky: Absolutely. So, ane of the things that yous had stressed inwards the way that yous were reading it talks most the shoulds, inwards damage of "should hold out aware", thus there's no requirement hither for some sort of behavioral response that's actually left upward to the discretion of people. So, we're non proverb that yous should completely avoid whatever personal affiliations, that yous shouldn't hold out involved inwards online social networking or whatever of that. But every Social Worker should receive got the awareness as well as and then purpose their ain sentence most how they desire to comport themselves inwards their personal life as well as how that could impact their professional person life, as well as ane time to a greater extent than we're non telling yous this is what yous must produce but given your context of practise as well as too thinking most the types of practise yous may produce years ahead inwards the future, yous may desire to intend most what types of personal affiliations that yous would similar to engage inwards online whether it's through online social media or fifty-fifty other forms of technology.

So, for example, I am gay. If yous produce a google search on me you'll honor affiliations amongst me amongst a number of dissimilar LGBT organizations. If I am working amongst clients who, yous know, are offended yesteryear my beingness gay or experience that it goes against their religion, it's going to impact my types of relationships amongst them. So, it's non telling me that I shouldn't hold out affiliated amongst LGBT organizations but I demand to hold out aware that people are going to know that, people may hold out offended yesteryear that as well as when I'm working amongst clients that may hold out something that I maintain inwards heed if there's some sort of barrier or obstruction to our relating amongst each other, that powerfulness hold out a possible number to hash out amongst the client.

Similarly, at that topographic point are people who acquire strongly engaged inwards political discussions. So, there's been a lot of argument most our electrical flow president. Some people are proverb some real positive things most the president as well as some people are proverb some real negative things most the President. You receive got the correct to engage inwards those types of dialogues as well as bring together groups that are for or against.

But intend most how your affiliations as well as the types of intelligence that yous receive got inwards diverse forms of media powerfulness impact your relationship. So, some people may create upward one's heed yous know what I'm actually going to restrict some of the types of intelligence or fifty-fifty some of the types of affiliations because of the detail type operate that I'm doing.

If I were a Forensic Social Worker as well as I were appearing inwards courtroom on behalf of sure types of clients, I powerfulness create upward one's heed yous know what I desire the courtroom to run into me every bit an objective mortal as well as if I reveal a lot of biases on the issues that are relevant to the cases that I am doing that's going to receive got a negative impact on my work, thus ane time to a greater extent than we're non proverb that yous should or yous should not, but yous should hold out aware as well as and then yous tin create upward one's heed how yous desire to deal your personal life as well as your personal affiliations every bit good every bit your professional person life as well as professional person affiliations.

Jonathan Singer: I appreciate those clarifications as well as those examples that yous gave because when I outset read that department it was a form of similar the bring upward beingness similar "Now don't acquire involved inwards groups that powerfulness brand the profession appear bad" as well as what you're proverb is that it doesn't tell that at all. There's zero most what yous should hold out doing or non doing, it's that yous should hold out aware of how your professional person affiliations online as well as offline tin impact how people intend of yous inwards a professional person context as well as at that indicate yous but receive got to brand some decisions most what yous are doing but that there's no prohibition.

Allan Barsky: Absolutely. It may useful for people to intend most the concept of baseline standards versus aspirational. So, at that topographic point are some baseline standards, non having sexual relationships amongst their clients, that's a baseline standard, don't autumn below that or yous tin arrive actually serious trouble. There's a lot of standards that are to a greater extent than aspirational. In an ideal world, our personal affiliations won't receive got whatever negative outcome on our professional person practice. In an ideal world, nosotros volition e'er hold out promoting social justice.

Well at this minute am I promoting social justice for people from Puerto Rico or people who are trying to immigrate or migrate or hold out refugees to this province as well as I'm not, but those are aspirational standards thus nosotros aspire to them as well as hopefully nosotros set some attempt into them as well as our awareness of our professional person as well as personal affiliations should hold out thought of but it's non every bit if that people are going to hold out held accountable as well as thrown out of the Association for non beingness aware.

The baseline measure are the ones that are to a greater extent than based on detail behaviors, that if yous breach the Code of Ethics, as well as then there's going to hold out serious harm to clients or to the profession.

Jonathan Singer: That's great. Thank You. Now at that topographic point is a intelligence inwards hither that I desire to inquire yous most as well as I mentioned it earlier but I'll but tell it ane time to a greater extent than thus it says, "mental or physical ability" as well as ane of the changes from the previous version of the Code of Ethics is that the intelligence disability was threw out as well as the intelligence disability has been removed as well as replaced amongst ability. Now I've heard from folks inwards disability communities that's sort of tantamount to making them invisible inwards the Code of Ethics. Could yous answer to that?

Allan Barsky: So, there's dissimilar views that people receive got on the purpose of language. So, at that topographic point was no intent champaign to brand people amongst disabilities invisible or to receive got away an identity that they've been working towards to having that validated as well as inserted into sure types of legislation as well as access to sure services on the ground of disability thus at that topographic point are some people, but non all people, from the disability community who are concerned most that.

One of the things that Social Work stands for is a strengths based perspective. So rather than but focusing on negatives-disability, the intelligence powerfulness focuses on all dissimilar types of abilities. People amongst disabilities receive got lots of strengths as well as it's non but defining them yesteryear the disability.

If yous too appear at the linguistic communication inwards the balance of the sentence nosotros don't speak most detail groups, nosotros speak most a type of social status or social identity group. So, nether Sexual Orientation nosotros don't tell Gays as well as Lesbians, it doesn't affair what your sexual orientation is at that topographic point shouldn't hold out discrimination or at that topographic point should hold out positive awareness as well as cultural competence around those issues, same sort of thing amongst race as well as ethnicity.

We don't restrict it to but talking most African-Americans or Latinos or whatever groups. It runs across whether it's people from minority groups, bulk groups oppressed groups or non oppressed groups. We desire Social Workers to appear at the total make of multifariousness inside each of these factors. We too added inwards some places mental or physical powerfulness ane time to a greater extent than sometimes people appear at powerfulness as well as they but intend inwards damage of physical powerfulness thus nosotros wanted to clarify that inwards each of the dissimilar sections.

So, I absolutely empathise that some people felt that it's taking away, but yous tin intend of some situations, non inwards this detail standard, but nether business office vi when nosotros speak most promoting social justice, informed consent as well as other areas where we've too changed the intelligence from disability to ability.

We desire to receive got into concern human relationship all people's abilities. So, if yous are looking at how produce nosotros alter our practise based on powerfulness yous powerfulness receive got people who are real strong inwards a detail surface area as well as wouldn't yous desire to construct on that person's strengths, but at the same fourth dimension nosotros demand to admit that Social Work has historically allied itself amongst people who are the most vulnerable as well as sometimes that vulnerability does relate to disability thus I absolutely empathise what the concern is. I wouldn't tell that everybody from those communities agrees amongst that. If yous appear at universities as well as other organizations a lot of them had Centers for Disability or Centers for Students amongst Disability as well as they've changed the linguistic communication to Centers for Student Accessibility or other types of to a greater extent than positive linguistic communication thus there's a split upward inwards damage of what type of linguistic communication is appropriate. If you're working amongst an private customer absolutely allow them to self-identify. When you're creating Codes of Ethics or way policies yous demand to create upward one's heed which is the preferred linguistic communication as well as empathise that people may non experience that it's the best language.

Jonathan Singer: Well give thank yous you for addressing that as well as I too appreciate the emphasis that the Code of Ethics does non prescribe how Social Workers should refer to clients that because the Code of Ethics removed the intelligence disability doesn't hateful that Social Workers are non allowed to purpose the intelligence disability especially inwards communities where that's been a term that has been reclaimed as well as is considered a term of power.

Allan Barsky: Thank You

Jonathan Singer: So, ane of the sections inwards the Code 1.15 Interruption of Services which says, "Social Workers should brand reasonable efforts to ensure continuity of services inwards the trial that services yesteryear factors such every bit unavailability, disruptions inwards electronic communication, relocation, illness, mental or physical powerfulness or death." Could yous speak most that?

Allan Barsky: Sure, actually the add-on at that topographic point is the disruptions inwards electronic communication. So, intend of a customer who may hold out inwards a crisis province of affairs or is depending on a Social Worker for detail types of aid whether it's amongst schoolhouse or amongst operate or amongst anxiety or whatever. So, nosotros desire to brand sure that clients are non abandoned fifty-fifty if it's for brief periods of time.

So historically nosotros intend most things similar the Social Worker becoming ill, the Social Worker passing away or people moving to a dissimilar location. Now when nosotros are relying on a lot of electronic communications amongst people, nosotros demand to receive got some thought most what happens if there's some sort of disruption. If yous appear at Puerto Rico recently, yous know, how much of the province all the same is without electricity as well as thus how tin yous receive got communication amongst clients when they're inwards dire demand fifty-fifty though there's no electricity.

Here inwards my habitation province of Florida nosotros had some people who were inwards a nursing home, an assisted living facility, elders, that had no electricity. They died because of issues related to oestrus as well as lack of air conditioning. Well, I don't know this for whatever sort of fact, but if they had problems amongst communication, possibly they couldn't receive got reached out to Social Workers or other service providers inwards their greatest province of need. So, nosotros demand to intend most what are some of the potential causes of disruption.

So, it could hold out things similar hurricanes, tornadoes as well as something that affects our electricity as well as powerfulness grids. It could hold out that the disruption is but caused yesteryear people non using the engineering scientific discipline effectively or it could hold out that somebody hacks into the scheme as well as thus it's helpful for us to intend most what nosotros would produce inwards such as well as such cases, thus having dorsum upward plans.

If I am using videoconferencing amongst a customer as well as the videoconferencing breaks downwardly is telephone a suitable backup? If nosotros know that sure people are at high gamble as well as communication is cutting off produce nosotros receive got a backup system? So, produce they know who they tin contact inwards damage of other crisis intervention services or if nosotros wanted to ship somebody out to aid produce nosotros emergency contact numbers?

One of the issues, when nosotros are serving clients inwards remote locations, is nosotros may non fifty-fifty know where the customer is or what types of services are available as well as thus for Social Workers providing services for clients inwards remote locations nosotros should intend most bespeak them who nosotros could contact for dorsum upward if at that topographic point was an emergency? Who could they contact? So fifty-fifty if I don't know all of the emergency services receive got I talked to them as well as possibly aid them occupation solve around those issues.

Jonathan Singer: So, the way that you're talking most this is, that sort of the inclusion of disruption of electronic communications is a prompt for Social Workers to intend most if I'm using engineering scientific discipline or fifty-fifty if I'm non using engineering scientific discipline but especially amongst engineering scientific discipline I should intend through how I am going to address interruption of services. But having it inwards the Code of Ethics doesn't it hateful that this something that sets upward Social Workers for liability thus if at that topographic point is disruption inwards electronic communications fifty-fifty if the Social Worker has thought through something else, isn't this the form of thing where a lawyer possibly non an ethical lawyer, but a lawyer could come upward inwards as well as tell "Ahh Ha! Your Code of Ethics says that yous should brand reasonable efforts to avoid disruptions inwards electronic communications as well as nosotros don't intend these are reasonable efforts."

Allan Barsky: So, you've picked upward on some telephone commutation language. What would hold out considered to hold out a reasonable effort? So, inwards a province similar Florida if nosotros haven't thought most the possibility of what happens inwards a hurricane that would hold out a problem. In other locations where hurricanes aren't that mutual having a response to hurricanes wouldn't actually hold out considered to hold out reasonable. It's actually the same sort of measure inwards damage of malpractice anyhow, thus fifty-fifty if nosotros didn't receive got this measure here, lawyers could brand the same claim.

We've got a duty of tending ane time nosotros engage clients we're offering services, we're proverb that nosotros are going to hold out available amongst them on some sort of basis, if nosotros breach that duty of tending all of a sudden, nosotros are non available for them every bit nosotros promised, as well as then nosotros breached that measure of care.
If they suffered damages every bit a closed final result of that breach of that duty of tending nosotros would hold out responsible anyhow. So, nosotros would hold out responsible regardless of whether it it's inwards the Code of Ethics. So, this is to a greater extent than of let’s hold out aware of what the potentials are as well as let's educate ourselves thus that nosotros tin bargain amongst these types of issues. So, this ane I don't intend adds to liability that wouldn't already hold out there

Now if yous acquire to the Practice Standards it goes into greater depth of some of the analysis for these types of issues. So, for example, yous powerfulness desire to receive got a communication policy or fifty-fifty a media or social media policy amongst clients. So, they should know if they're going to contact yous would it hold out reasonable for them to appear a response inwards twenty-four hours, forty-eight hours, a week? What would hold out the appropriate response rate? On telephones people volition set messages that tell inwards instance of emergency telephone phone 911 or other emergency services. So that powerfulness hold out your backup for electronic communication. In other cases, yous demand to intend most other forms of dorsum upward for your electronic communication.

There's no expectation that we're going to hold out perfect as well as that everything is e'er going to run perfectly smoothly. One of the challenges amongst some types of engineering scientific discipline is non all of the bugs receive got been worked out inwards some of the newer technologies. Does that hateful that nosotros should avoid them all together? Well, it powerfulness hateful that for especially risky situations a detail type of engineering scientific discipline isn't stable plenty thus avoid it. But other forms of engineering scientific discipline they've been around for years as well as years as well as years as well as they're wonderful. The representative of dealing amongst crisis over the telephone. We've been using that for years as well as years as well as years as well as it's wonderful that we've been able to purpose that engineering scientific discipline Is telephone perfect, no? But it sure enough has provided services to people inwards demand that powerfulness non acquire them if nosotros were but relying on in-person services.

Jonathan Singer: For folks who are interested inwards learning to a greater extent than what are some things that they tin produce to larn most the differences betwixt the 2018 Code of Ethics as well as the previous version?

Allan Barsky: Great question. So, the NASW has conducted an online preparation as well as it's a gratis preparation that anybody tin receive got access to. I would encourage people to fifty-fifty part this amongst their agencies as well as some of our other mental wellness professions thus that they're familiar amongst what some of our obligations are. Various NASW chapters around the province are having annual conferences where some of their keynotes or some of their sessions are focusing on the changes to the Code of Ethics. The Council on Social Work Education is looking at how it tin render additional preparation for educators as well as how to contain the diverse changes inwards courses inwards MSW, BSW as well as Doctoral programs as well as I intend but yous know, opening upward the Code of Ethics itself as well as taking some other appear at the wording of some of the sections. So, yous may know to a greater extent than frequently than non what's inwards it, but sometimes the detail words produce brand a divergence inwards damage of what the actual obligations are.

Jonathan Singer: If somebody had feedback most the Code of Ethics, yous mentioned that, three, six, ix years, the possibilities for revision. How would people submit feedback straight off that the Code of Ethics is sort of done for this cycle? Where would they go? What would they produce as well as would their feedback hold out considered inwards whatever sort of organized or systematic way?

Allan Barsky: So, I intend people could contact the Office of Ethics as well as Professional Review yesteryear electronic mail or yesteryear telephone as well as render feedback. I intend that you've noted that it's non probable that at that topographic point volition hold out changes inwards the close future, don't necessarily fifty-fifty inside 3 years receive got the expectation that at that topographic point volition hold out changes. So, the best fourth dimension for changes is when NASW announces that at that topographic point is a national chore for us to review the Code, that's a corking fourth dimension to hold out providing people amongst feedback.

But a lot of things that nosotros talked most today I intend that it's worthy of intelligence as well as there's diverse types of online Social Work forums as well as blogs thus it's corking for people to receive got conversations as well as how yous tin construct on these. People should hold out submitting articles as well as reading articles. We receive got an online mag of Social Work Values as well as Ethics as well as thus it's a corking chance for us to locomote along the dialogue as well as speak most how nosotros are interpreting these as well as if there's needs for change, let's acquire those changes documented as well as when it is fourth dimension to receive got some other revision, as well as then hopefully those volition hold out considered at that time. You know ane of the corking other things amongst online communication is that people are sharing dissimilar types of resources. People could part their Social Media policies or their Informed Consent policies or fifty-fifty their assessment forms to demo how they are taking engineering scientific discipline into account. I intend that's helpful to the Profession. Some people receive got already been generous amongst sharing that sort of information thus I'm sure it'll continue.

Jonathan Singer: That's great. Well give thank yous you for those resources as well as ane time to a greater extent than Allan give thank yous you thus much for taking the fourth dimension to speak amongst us today. I actually appreciate it.

Allan Barsky: Okay. You're doing a corking service for the Profession. Thank You.

Jonathan Singer: Thank You.


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Jonathan Singer: Hey at that topographic point podcast listeners, don’t forget to hear to parts 1 as well as 2 of this conversation. Part 1 is an overview as well as history of the NASW Code of Ethics, as well as a intelligence of department 1.03(i) searching the spider web for information most your clients. In Part 2 Allan as well as I speak most Section 1.04(e) knowing the laws inwards your jurisdiction as well as the ane where your customer lives as well as how that affects practicing across province lines amongst or without technology.  We too speak most 1.05, cultural competence.

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