[Episode 48] In today's podcast, I speak withCulturagram, when working amongst immigrants as well as refugees.
Download MP3 [34:17]Interview Questions
- How did yous come upwards to co-author a text on immigrants as well as refugees (I&R)? Why have got legal as well as social run perspectives as opposed to legal as well as populace health, or educational activity as well as social work?
- In the introduction to your text, Social Work amongst Immigrants as well as Refugees, yous invoke this thought of the “the stranger,” as well as laid out to response the interrogation “how to welcome the stranger.” What do yous hateful past times “welcome the stranger?”
- There are 2 assumptions inward your text. One is that I&R require assist as well as the other is that social workers should help. In your text, yous have got chapters on needs of immigrants as well as refugees, including issues of physical as well as mental health, children as well as families, education, issues of sexual orientation as well as gender preference, aging, as well as legal advocacy. Can yous utter close 1 or 2 things that social workers require to know to assist immigrants as well as refugees?
- How tin social workers as well as lawyers run together to assist I&R? How do the legal as well as social run perspectives on helping I&R differ or complement each other?
- What policies or pieces of legislation that comport on I&R should our listeners live aware of? How tin social workers best advocate for their I&R clients?
- I know that this mass is geared towards working amongst immigrants as well as refugees inward the States of America of America, but immigration as well as working amongst refugees is non an number that is unique to the USA. How mightiness listeners inward other countries brand sense of the data you've presented today?
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Fernando Chang-Muy, JD, is the Thomas O’Boyle Lecturer inward Law at the University of Pennsylvania School of Law, where he teaches refugee police pull as well as policy. He also lectures on immigration as well as social work, as well as on organizational effectiveness, at the Graduate School of Social Policy as well as Practice, Executive Education Program, amongst a focus on strategic planning, board governance, as well as resources development. Drawing upon his sense inward law, refugee military camp administration, as well as philanthropy, Fernando also provides independent consulting, coaching, as well as preparation to authorities agencies, local as well as national philanthropic institutions, social service agencies, as well as cultural organizations. His specific areas of expertise that assist to strengthen the effectiveness of organizations include: strategic planning, board governance, resources evolution (with a focus on private donor campaigns), human resources development, as well as coming together as well as procedure facilitation. Recent clients include the United Nations—UNAIDS, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Department of Aging, as well as the City of Philadelphia’s Law as good as Health departments. He has also served as manager of the local site of Hispanics inward Philanthropy, a $50 1000000 nationwide philanthropic collaborative increasing the internet amount of dollars flowing to Latino nonprofits.
He is a one-time computer program officeholder at the Philadelphia Foundation, as well as past times coordinator of the Emma Lazarus Collaborative, a funding collaborative that, through matching grants from the Open Society Institute, supported nonprofit organizations providing service as well as advocacy for immigrants as well as refugees. He has also served as start-up founding manager of the Liberty Center for Survivors of Torture, a federally funded projection that provides services as well as advocacy for survivors of torture. He is a one-time cochair of the Philadelphia Bar Association’s International Human Rights Committee; as well as a one-time assistant dean as well as Equal Opportunity Officer of the College at Swarthmore College, where he also taught International Human Rights. From 1988 to 1993, he served as legal officeholder amongst 2 United Nations (UN) agencies: the Office of the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) as well as the World Health Organization (WHO), serving as the human rights officeholder for its Global Program on AIDS. Before joining the UN, he was a staff attorney at Community Legal Services inward Philadelphia where he served as manager of the Southeast Asian Refugee Project, managing the provision of costless legal assistance to low-income people inward Philadelphia.
He is a graduate of Loyola (BA), Georgetown (MA), Antioch (JD), as well as Harvard Law School’s Negotiation Program. Awards include 1982–1983 Reginald Heber Smith Fellowship (Reggie) awarded past times Congress through Howard University to police pull schoolhouse graduates committed to civil rights; the 1990 21st Century Trust Fellowship from the United Kingdom; the 2001 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Social Justice Award from the Rutgers University School of Law; the 2002 Michael Greenberg GALLOP laurels for leadership, activism, as well as legal advocacy; the 2007 La Justicia Award from the Hispanic Bar Association of Pennsylvania; as well as the 2007 Delaware Valley’s Most Influential Latinos from El Concilio as well as the Multicultural Affairs Congress. In July 2008, Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter appointed him to the Board of the Philadelphia Human Relations Commission. He was named inward 2003 as Thomas O’Boyle Lecturer at the University of Pennsylvania School of Law, established to recognize the contributions made to students’ legal educational activity past times outstanding lawyers as well as judges who instruct as well as part their sense amongst students.
Dr. Elaine Congress is professor as well as associate dean at Fordham University Graduate School of Social Service. She is on the International Federation of Social Workers (IFSW) United Nations squad as well as is a fellow member of the NGO Committees on Migration as well as the United Nations International Decade of the World’s Indigenous Peoples. In add-on she serves as the North American representative on the IFSW Permanent Committee on Ethical Issues. Dr. Congress has many publications on cultural variety as well as ethics inward social work. She is the writer of half dozen books including the latterly published Social run amongst immigrants as well as refugees: Legal issues, clinical skills, as well as advocacy. When Dr. Congress began inward the social run field, she firstly worked amongst immigrants as a straight practitioner, as a supervisor, as well as as an administrator inward a community mental wellness hospital inward Brooklyn. There she worked amongst Latino immigrants from Puerto Rico, Mexico, the Caribbean, as well as Central as well as South America. Her sense amongst various Latino clients led her to develop the culturagram that helps practitioners individualize families from various cultural backgrounds. Although the culturagram is most commonly discussed as well as applied inside the context of working amongst immigrants as well as refugees, it tin live used to cracking outcome amongst people from the bulk civilization who are oft mistakenly thought to live "culture-free."
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]Jonathan Singer: Today’s podcast is on social run amongst immigrants as well as refugees. According to Merriam-Webster’s dictionary, an immigrant is someone who comes to a province to select upwards permanent residence. This Definition makes immigration seem pretty boring. If yous believe the pop press inward the United States, most immigrants sneak into the province at night, inward Texas or California, have got something to do amongst an unscrupulous grapheme called a coyote, as well as select jobs from legal residents as well as usage taxpayer dollars to educate their children as well as pay for their wellness care. This ikon of the immigrant as villain sells papers as well as plays into an historic menses old theme inward the States of America that the stranger cannot live trusted. In fact, the bulk of immigrants living inward the States of America are classified as legal permanent residents—that is, people who are authorized to alive hither permanently. The States of America would non live the province it is today without immigrants. If yous don’t believe me, inquire someone whose ancestors were hither before the pilgrims arrived 400 years ago.
H5N1 refugee is someone who flees a province or ability to avoid persecution on concern human relationship of race, religion, nationality, membership inward a particular social group, or political opinion. Wyclef Jean, the founder as well as atomic number 82 vocaliser of the Washington, D.C.-based group, The Fugees, is a refugee from Haiti. The group’s name, The Fugees, is a shortened version of the word Refugee.
The social run profession inward the States of America believes that immigration as well as refugee policies should simultaneously uphold as well as back upwards equity as well as human rights, as well as protect national security. Immigration policies must promote social justice as well as avoid racism as well as discrimination or profiling on the footing of race, religion, province of origin, gender, or other grounds. NASW has a special involvement inward the impact of refugee as well as immigration policies on families as well as children. NASW supports policies that encourage household unit of measurement reunification as well as ensure that children do non grow upwards unduly disadvantaged past times the immigration condition of their parents. H5N1 quick banking company complaint before nosotros start the interview – I used Skype to tape the interview; Elaine was inward New York as well as Fernando was inward Philadelphia.
Jonathan Singer: So how did yous come upwards to co-author a text on immigrants as well as refugees?
Elaine Congress: Very interesting question, I volition tell yous that our editor, Jennifer Parillo, truly was a matchmaker. Uh, Fernando knows a lot close social workers, I hateful he has taught at social run school, as good as police pull school. And, inward fact, he had been interviewed for an article on social run amongst immigrants as well as Jennifer had approached him close doing a mass on social run exercise as well as issues amongst immigrants. Also I knew Jennifer because I had published amongst Springer, as well as I had a book, 2 editions of a book: Multicultural perspectives on working amongst families. So Jennifer approached me if I would similar to come across Fernando as well as run amongst on social run amongst immigrants as well as refugees. This is something I have got been real interested inward for many years, ever since I firstly started inward exercise inward social work, I worked amongst many immigrants from Latin American countries, as well as I know Fernando also has been real interested as well as worked amongst immigrants for many years.
Jonathan Singer: Clearly yous both have got interests inward this area, but why have got legal as well as social run perspectives as opposed to legal as well as populace wellness or educational activity as well as social work? What is close having legal as well as social run perspectives together that’s thence important?
Elaine Congress: It’s acquire out increasingly apparent that inward lodge to supply straight exercise yous truly require to empathize the legal as well as policy context inward lodge to effectively assist immigrants as well as refugees.
Fernando Chang-Muy: Unfortunately lawyers, immigration lawyers, tend to live unilateral, as well as they think that after they assist their clients regularize their condition the run ends there, as well as unfortunately that’s non truthful because people’s lives are impacted past times the law, past times the Public Health Department, past times the Department of Agriculture, which issues nutrient stamps. It would live wonderful inward an ideal globe after the lawyer finishes helping the private amongst their legal issues, getting a dark-green card, they could as well as thence transfer them or refer them to social workers to assist them amongst the balance of their lives, unfortunately that doesn’t hap real oft thence that’s why the melding together of immigration as well as social run would live great. It volition live the lawyers who volition non reckon this text as well as hopefully if an immigrant firstly approaches a social worker, the social worker as well as thence mightiness approach the lawyer as well as endeavor to have got the 2 industries or the 2 sectors run together.
Jonathan Singer: In the introduction to your text “Social run amongst immigrants as well as refugees” yous invoke this thought of “the stranger” as well as laid out to response the interrogation how to welcome the stranger, what do yous hateful past times welcome the stranger?
Fernando Chang-Muy: Well I am reminded of whatever civilization yous are from whether yous are Jewish, or Muslim or Christian or Buddhist, at that topographic point are ever these principles of welcome the stranger, thence I am reminded of the Torah. It says welcome the stranger. I am reminded of inward the Muslim tradition at that topographic point is a disputation that says fifty-fifty if at that topographic point is a stranger, a non-Muslim amidst you, yous should assist that mortal as well as convey them to safety. There is the golden dominion of Buddhism; at that topographic point is the care for others as yous would live treated inward Christianity. So cultures have got these similar patterns inward thinking of welcoming people who are non similar us. There are ever a stranger amidst us, there’s ever someone leaving fleeing their province of origin, for either human rights reasons or economical reasons as well as this text aims to assist the readers, inward this instance social workers improve empathize how to welcome the stranger, that novel mortal who’s just arrived inward our midst.
Jonathan Singer: There are 2 assumptions inward your text, 1 is that immigrants as well as refugees require assist as well as the other is that social workers should help. So inward your text yous have got chapters on the needs of immigrants as well as refugees including issues of: physical as well as mental health, children as well as families, education, issues of sexual orientation as well as gender preference, aging, as well as legal advocacy. Can yous utter close 1 or 2 things that social workers require to know to assist immigrants as well as refugees?
Elaine Congress: Well, immigrants oft have got difficulties accessing social services, wellness care, they may non know where to go, know how to run amongst these systems as well as social workers tin truly assist them access these services as well as systems that they truly need. Also, many immigrants have got issues close their legal condition as well as for certain social workers tin as well as should refer to lawyers who tin assist them amongst their status. I think an of import lesson for all social workers that nosotros acquire inward social run 101 to truly commence amongst where the customer is as well as inward lodge to do that social workers truly have got to empathize the client. I have got a culturagram, a household unit of measurement assessment tool that I developed that truly helps a social worker await at a customer inward damage of 10 dissimilar aspects as well as this could live real helpful.
Jonathan Singer: You as well as I did a podcast on the culturagram as well as listeners tin access that on the Social Work Podcast website, thence yous are proverb that using this culturagram is 1 of the tools that social workers tin usage when working amongst immigrants as well as refugees?
Elaine Congress: Right, as well as that tin live truly helpful because yous have got to truly assess the mortal that yous are working amongst as well as reckon where they are as well as where they come upwards from, after this assessment as well as thence yous are ready to motion on to planned handling as well as intervention.
Fernando Chang-Muy: Yeah. I would similar to add, Jonathan that 1 of the things as well as this is to underscore what Elaine just said, 1 of the things that social workers require to know assist immigrants as well as refugees is the legal issues. So correct upwards front end of the text nosotros have got a whole chapter devoted to “What’s a Green Card, what’s a refugee, what’s a US citizen, how do people come upwards in?”, as well as the goal is non to plow the reader or the social run practitioner into a lawyer, just to live familiar amongst these terms. Whether nosotros similar it or non the demographics of the US are changing as well as social workers require to remain inward melody amongst changing demographics, as well as also amongst the law. So this is specially of import inward the southern states, Florida, California, Arizona, Texas, but all over, fifty-fifty North Carolina, has seen an explosion of immigrants. The other thing, Jonathan, yous said that the text talks close how immigrants as well as refugees require help, throughout the text though, non solely do our authors utter close how immigrants as well as refugees require help, but they also utter close the strengths as well as assets that the immigrant as well as refugee community brings. So sure it is the nature of the animate beingness of social run exercise as well as it’s the nature of immigration exercise that people come upwards to us amongst need, need, need, I require help, help, help, but throughout nosotros remind the reader that the novel comers also convey strengths as well as assets.
Jonathan Singer: Yeah I appreciate yous pointing that out because I think that does also oft acquire lost inward the mix. We start thinking close our clients as only people who have got problems as opposed to people who have got a lifetime worth of resources, as well as unless nosotros are able to tap into those as well as thence nosotros are truly doing our clients as well as ourselves a disservice, thence I appreciate yous bringing that up. Is at that topographic point something inward particular that yous tin think of peradventure that was addressed inward 1 of these chapters close issues of physical as well as mental health, children as well as families, that could live a challenge on 1 paw as well as and thence an representative of something that these families convey as resources or these immigrants convey as resources as well as strengths.
Fernando Chang-Muy: Sure, good just talking close children, the challenge is that the populace schoolhouse system, the administrators may non live familiar amongst rights of children, as well as thence a challenge is sometimes a populace schoolhouse district volition forestall a kid from enrolling inward school, thence that’s a challenge for the parents as well as of course of study the child. The pull or property is truly the kid itself. Look at the winners of the Westinghouse Science Contest, await at winners of spelling bees, await at the talent that has been developed hither of either children born, US citizen children born of immigrants, or immigrant children coming hither as well as eventually becoming lawful permanent residents as well as US citizens. So the challenge is non amongst the newcomers the challenge is amongst the scheme that prevents access to services, inward this instance populace education. And the success is the children themselves, the children of immigrants, or those children who were born abroad are bringing cracking resources to this country. I used to run amongst the United Nations High Commissioner for refugees as well as they had this truly cracking poster, it was dark background, as well as 1 lite was shining onto the human face upwards of Albert Einstein, as well as the wording on the real unproblematic poster was “Einstein was a refugee await at what he brought to our country”. So inward opening doors nosotros assist people, but those of us who are already hither assist ourselves past times accepting these brains who are coming inward either at the real high level, as good as the low, blue-collar level, the picking mushrooms, the working inward the chicken factory, doing the landscaping, all of that is done past times immigrant labor.
Jonathan Singer: And yous are talking close helping, helping folks as well as 1 of my other questions is how tin social workers as well as lawyers run together to assist immigrants as well as refugees, as well as specifically how do the legal as well as social run perspectives on helping immigrants as well as refugees differ as well as peradventure complement each other?
Fernando Chang-Muy: It’s incompetent inward both professions to cross-refer. And fortunately, the social run profession as well as inward social run school, that is the ethos, let’s collaborate as well as let’s run amongst others. In the, as well as I’ll criticize my ain profession, the legal profession, nosotros are taught real silo-ish ways of thinking I’m a contract lawyer, I ‘m an immigration lawyer, a intellectual belongings lawyer, I’ll do my affair as well as forget close working amongst others. And thence it’s incumbent, I’ll set the burden on the legal profession, to as I previously mentioned that after they run amongst the person, inward helping them amongst just that 1 focused issue, getting a Green Card, getting regularized, that they say past times the way have got yous thought of going to means x 2 blocks away thence that someone at that topographic point tin assist yous amongst housing issues, or amongst access to getting a medical card, or getting a job, yous have got been working as well as directly it’s fourth dimension to do this upfront as well as pay your dorsum taxes, thence that’s 1 way that lawyers as well as social workers tin run together. If the customer firstly approaches the social worker, the firstly affair social worker volition require to is an assessment, the culturagram assessment as good as a legal assessment, as well as if the mortal needs immigration assistance, to refer to the appropriate populace involvement lawyer or private lawyer, as well as that’s how they tin complement each other, past times knowing each other’s issues as well as past times knowing that they exist, as well as identifying goodness resources, the social worker identifying goodness populace involvement immigration firms as well as where they are located, or honest private attorneys, as well as vice versa, that the lawyer knows who are the goodness social workers inward the expanse as well as what are the agency’s they run as well as making the appropriate referrals.
Elaine Congress: Oh yeah I think that’s real important, that it’s a 2 way street because 1 basic deviation I have got ever felt is that lawyers are truly customer focused similar there’s 1 case, yous don’t have got a household unit of measurement instance yous correspond 1 person, 1 client, inward damage of his or her immigrations status. In social run yous ever have got much to a greater extent than of a household unit of measurement approach, as well as this is a dissimilar way of kinda doing concern if yous will, but it would truly run out good if at that topographic point was referral dorsum as well as forth as well as I would desire collaboration.
Jonathan Singer: You know it sounds similar setting upwards mixers amongst lawyers as well as social workers as well as lawyers who run amongst immigrants as well as refugees mightiness non live a bad idea.
Elaine Congress: That’s interesting!
Jonathan Singer: So when I was inward Austin as a social worker I helped to start a grouping called the Austin Castilian Speaking Mental Health Professional Network as well as it was an informal network of mental wellness providers who spoke Castilian as well as nosotros had a listserv as well as it was truly a way for us to post something on the listing proverb hi I’ve got a household unit of measurement as well as they’ve got a domestic violence issue, or sexual activity abuse, or they have got this that as well as the other thing, as well as is at that topographic point somebody out at that topographic point who’s got an opening, what resources are available, as well as it truly turned into this fabulous resources for mental wellness providers, it’s all the same going, yous know what nosotros never thought close expanding it as well as opening it upwards to what nosotros would have got thought of as similar an auxiliary services, yous know similar lawyers, or medical professionals exterior of the mental wellness field, but as your talking it truly sounds similar that is a real valuable service to have got some sort of linkage betwixt these 2 groups. Now inward your text on immigrants as well as refugees yous write close Drachman's three-part approach to social run exercise amongst immigrant families. The firstly constituent yous advert was agreement the immigrants’ human relationship to their province of rootage as well as the 2d constituent was how they got here, which Drachman calls transit, tin yous utter close the 3rd constituent of the approach?
Elaine Congress: The 3rd constituent it’s a customer or household unit of measurement province of affairs hither inward the United States. I’m going to give an representative close how knowing solely the 3rd constituent was non as helpful as when nosotros truly learned to a greater extent than close the firstly as well as the 2d part. We spoke a footling spell before close educational activity as well as some of the issues inward damage of education. This happened inward a populace school, at that topographic point was an 8 twelvemonth old man child who was just real tearful all the time, just didn’t speak, didn’t acquire involved at all as well as and thence finally nosotros found out he was from a fundamental American country, spoke solely Spanish, as well as amongst a Castilian speaking social worker nosotros were able to acquire his history. Apparently his manly mortal parent belonged to a dissonant political grouping inward his province as well as was taken away inward the pump of the nighttime in all probability to live killed. His uncle had smuggled him as well as his woman parent out of the province as well as they came through United Mexican States entered as undocumented people as well as it was a real hard transit. So it was truly helpful for us to empathize the firstly constituent of his history as well as how, as well as yous tin imagine how traumatic it was for him to have got to leave of absence his dwelling theatre inward the pump of the nighttime to completely leave of absence behind his familiar surroundings as well as also such a hard fourth dimension traveling across the edge as well as and thence upwards to New York. So I think this illustrates why nosotros shouldn’t just focus on what nosotros reckon inward front end of us, the actual electrical flow province of affairs of the immigrant, but truly have got to acquire out along inward heed the before parts of their lives.
Fernando Chang-Muy: Yeah I would handgrip as well as specially the refugee context as opposed to the immigration context. H5N1 refugee inward their province of rootage may have got suffered torture, peradventure fifty-fifty someone inward the medical profession may have got done the torture, as well as and thence secondly inward the transit is raped, as well as directly they are hither as well as thence the triple trauma, it helps to know what happened inward the province of origin, as well as what happened inward the transit, thence that for representative a MD does non all of a abrupt smooth a lite inward the persons oculus which is the way that they may have got been tortured inward their province of origin. H5N1 manly mortal MD may desire to recuse himself as well as non reckon the patient because the patient was raped inward transit to this country. And thence as Elaine just mentioned, knowing what happened inward the province of origin, it helps knowing what happened inward transit helps supply improve service directly that they are here, as well as thence that they won’t live every bit traumatized hither inward the United States. Now this is where truly immigration lawyers do refugee police pull processing, we’ll acquire this data out because that is truly the meat of a refugee story. You have got to tell what happened inward your province of rootage as well as why are yous afraid of beingness persecuted. Whereas a practitioner or a social worker inward a infirmary or a mental wellness social service means mightiness acquire to that as well, but others may not. So this is where the 2 tin run together. Jonathan I desire to acquire out dorsum to your other interrogation close social workers as well as lawyers working together, as well as I know that what yous did inward Texas is truly great, at that topographic point are to a greater extent than models similar that happening just about the country. In Pennsylvania, inward Philadelphia where I live, there’s truly an organisation called the Pennsylvania Immigration as well as Citizenship Coalition, PICC< as well as the role of that coalition is to do just what yous mentioned earlier, which is to convey people from various industries or run areas, social work, law, populace sector, the Department of Health, the Department of X,Y, or Z, thence that they all utter close how what’s going on inward their globe impacts immigrants as well as refugees inward the Philadelphia area. This model is happening as good as inward New York, Boston, as well as Illinois, as well as thence to a greater extent than as well as to a greater extent than the professions are seeing that they tin rally just about a population group, inward this instance immigrants as well as refugees, as well as let’s acquire from each other, let’s utter close what’s going on amongst drivers licenses, amongst housing, amongst province legislation, amongst federal legislation, as well as and thence nosotros tin part data together. Jonathan Singer: That’s great, as well as nosotros tin set the link to that grouping on the Social Work Podcast Website. Fernando Chang-Muy: The link is PICC-PA.org Jonathan Singer: So you’re talking close sort of an interdisciplinary grouping of folks that acquire together just about a population, inward this instance immigrants as well as refugees, as well as how they tin outcome legislation, as well as I was wondering, because I know yous utter close this inward the book, but what policies or pieces of legislation that outcome immigrants as well as refugees should our listeners live aware of? And how tin social workers best advocate on a policy marker for their immigrant as well as refugee clients? Fernando Chang-Muy: Sure, the response to that interrogation is going to depend on where the listeners are. But metropolis councils, province governments, oft endeavor to overstep laws that mightiness have got an impact on immigrants. So it’s of import for the social worker to live aware of that as well as reckon what if anything tin live done. So for example, inward the metropolis of Hazelton, a metropolis inward Pennsylvania, at that topographic point was give-and-take of turning landlords into the agents of the immigration service. In other situations at that topographic point have got been proposed legislations proverb solely US citizens, or lawful permanent residents, tin apply for a union license. And thence these are all metropolis as well as province laws that impact immigrants, thence the firstly affair of course of study is just to know what is going on. Then taking it to the side past times side level, social workers mightiness live used to working inward a 1 on 1 instance or inward a household unit of measurement province of affairs as Elaine mentioned, but non live as used to working on systemic change, as well as thence the lastly chapter of the text raises awareness to the reader that indeed just as of import as it is for yous to run on straight clinical issues, as well as on 1 on 1 as well as amongst families, it’s also of import that social workers marshal amongst other social workers as well as other people interested inward the number to endeavor to outcome systemic change. In this instance it could live metropolis laws, province laws, or federal laws that impact immigrants. Many social workers run inward non-profit organizations which are prohibited from lobbying but are non prohibited from educating, as well as at that topographic point is a distinction, thence the lastly chapter inward the mass talks close why it’s of import to run on systems change, why it’s of import for social workers to know the deviation betwixt lobbying as well as educating, as well as how 501c3 non-profit organizations where many social workers mightiness run in, tin educate policy makers as well as do that legally. Jonathan Singer: So what is the deviation betwixt educating as well as lobbying, just briefly? Fernando Chang-Muy: Sure, good for that you’ll have got to read the mass Jonathan. But it’s ok to acquire out to a specific policy maker as well as say we’re concerned close how policies mightiness comport on our clients. So according to the folks from Alliance for Justice, lobbying is when yous are for or against a specific slice of legislation or yous proclaim you’re for or against a specific incumbent, as well as that is expressly prohibited. But yous tin acquire out as well as heighten awareness amongst legislators as well as utter close the strengths of immigrant kids, how today’s immigrant kid mightiness live tomorrow’s Einstein, as well as how they require to live aware of that. Jonathan Singer: That’s great. Well give thank yous you. Certainly if you’re interested inward to a greater extent than information, detailed information, yous tin observe it inward the book. I gauge the lastly interrogation that I have got is something that touches on something that nosotros have got talked close on as well as off throughout this podcast, which is that at that topographic point are listeners of the podcast who don’t alive inward the United States, as well as for listeners inward other countries, how mightiness they brand sense of the data that nosotros have got talked close inward today’s interview that was specific to the United States? Elaine Congress: Well firstly allow me just say that migration is occurring all over the world. We’re real aware of it hither inward the United States, people are moving just about the world, as well as of course of study the motion is primarily from developing countries to developed country, but it’s happening everywhere. I think Fernando as well as I have got been involved on the NGO commission on migration as well as we’ve looked at immigration patterns, as well as commonly similar to the United States, at that topographic point are many issues inward countries inward damage of the ways that immigrants are received. It’s truthful that laws may differ, as well as are somewhat unique to each country, but definitely inward damage of social run skills inward working inward say a theatre setting amongst immigrants, or an educational scheme amongst immigrants in all probability truly would send over. Also, I just desire to advert the phenomenon of transnationalism. What nosotros truly reckon directly is that many immigrants are constituent of 2 countries, truly are bicultural, as well as real oft they physically move dorsum as well as forth, or fifty-fifty if they don’t physically move because of modern technology, as well as emails as well as jail cellular telephone phones, at that topographic point are able to have got continual contact amongst people who they left behind. So this is some other argue why this mass is applicable, non solely to US social workers, but truly social workers all over the world. And at that topographic point are in all probability close 750,000 social workers just about the world. Jonathan Singer: Wow, I didn’t know that; that’s a lot of social workers. Elaine Congress: Right. Fernando Chang-Muy: And Jonathan, fifty-fifty though the chapter on the legal part, uses words similar “getting a Green Card”, inward Canada it mightiness live a dissimilar word similar “becoming a landed immigrant”. But the principles are there, most countries recognize refugee condition as well as the text explains what’s a refugee. Most countries give lawful permanent residence to foreigners, as well as they may non usage those words similar “getting a Green Card”, but the principles all the same apply across the board. And in 1 lawsuit again although the laws, the word, the terminology mightiness live different, the issues, the strengths, as well as challenges that people human face upwards are the same. An abused adult woman inward the US is all the same an abused adult woman inward England. And thence a social worker, live that inward England or the US, mightiness all the same observe the chapter on immigrant women as well as the particular issues of battered immigrant women, that’s going to cutting across countries as well as borders. Elaine Congress: Another of import issue, in all probability inward all countries, immigrants are discriminated against as well as are oft the dependent acre of biased crimes as well as oppressive policies, as well as I think it’s real of import for social workers because nosotros are real concerned close promoting social justice, to position when this occurs as well as to truly advocate to brand a modify inside their ain countries. Jonathan Singer: To convey it correct dorsum just about to the commencement when nosotros talked close the welcoming the stranger, it truly sounds similar the text that yous wrote is truly meant as a way of both educating social workers close legal perspectives, but as sort of a couplet edifice mass betwixt the professions as well as ultimately is a way of addressing social justice from a strengths perspective just about this population of immigrants as well as refugees. Fernando Chang-Muy: Just to follow-up on what yous said, nosotros are trying to acquire the mass inward legal clinics for example, as well as at that topographic point are many police pull schools just about the country, which have got a legal immigration clinic. And in 1 lawsuit again the immature pupil is a mirror ikon of the older immigration lawyer who sees the client, helps them acquire a Green Card, as well as says “goodbye”, as well as hopefully amongst this text, the immature police pull pupil inward an immigration hospital mightiness alternative upwards the mass as well as say the work doesn’t halt here, directly that I’ve gotten my customer a Green Card, at that topographic point mightiness live other issues that they mightiness live facing: Employment, health, mental health, issues of abuse, allow me reckon if I tin refer them to a social worker. Jonathan Singer: That would live great. Elaine Congress: There are many schools, I know nosotros do at Fordham as well as also at the University of Pennsylvania, have got articulation police pull as well as social run programs. Fernando Chang-Muy: Exactly. Elaine Congress: And inward fact at that topographic point are some classes, integrative seminars, inward which at that topographic point are both police pull students as well as social run students as well as it’s a wonderful fourth dimension to have got them commence to hash out some of these issues to assist them shape relationships inward damage of working amongst immigrant clients. Jonathan Singer: Elaine as well as Fernando, give thank yous you thence much for talking amongst me today close immigrants as well as refugees, I truly appreciate it. Elaine Congress: Thank yous I truly enjoyed having the chance to utter amongst you, aka Jonathan, as well as also amongst yous Fernando, close 1 of my favorite topics on social run amongst immigrants as well as refugees. Fernando Chang-Muy: Thank yous Jonathan for beingness adaptable as well as flexible, as well as raising awareness, non just through books as well as lectures, but through this newly emerging technology, which is non that emerging, but this able, podcasts are able to accomplish to a greater extent than people. So give thank yous you for your advocacy, as well as give thank yous you Elaine for this journeying for the past times year, inward putting this mass together, as well as of course of study to Jennifer Perillo at Springer Publications.
References as well as Resources
Chang-Muy, F. as well as Congress, E. (2015). Social Work amongst Immigrants as well as Refugees, Second Edition: Legal Issues, Clinical Skills, as well as Advocacy, 2nd Edition. New York: Springer Publishing Company
Congress. E. as well as Gonzalez, M. (2005). Multicultural perspectives inward working amongst families (2nd ed.) New York: Springer Publishing Company.
Congress, E. (2004). Cultural as well as ethnic issues inward working amongst culturally various patients as well as their families: Use of the culturagram to promote cultural competency inward wellness attention settings. Social Work inward Health Care, 39 (3/4), 249-262.
Congress, E. (2002). Using culturagrams amongst culturally various families. In A. Roberts & G. Greene. Social Work Desk Reference (pp. 57-61). New York: Oxford University Press.
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Online resources
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Becker, A., & McDonnell, P. J. (2009, March 4). Mexico's drug state of war creates novel course of study of refugees. L.A. Times Online. Retrieved March 5, 2009 from http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-asylum4-2009mar04,0,1751265.story
Glass, I. (2006, Jan 20). My big break. This American Life. Retrieved Feb 16, 2009 from http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?sched=1116
- Host Ira Glass tells the story of Marisela as well as Yadira, who were honors students inward high school. They wanted to acquire out to the best colleges, but they couldn't acquire federally-funded scholarships because they weren't U.S. citizens; they had come upwards from United Mexican States when they were little. Through a serial of fortunate breaks, they care to scrape together plenty coin to acquire out to college. Still, because of their illegal status, they have got no thought if their educational activity volition acquire them anywhere inward America. Helen Thorpe, a reporter inward Denver, interviewed the students. (7 minutes)
Glass, I. (2005, Nov 18). Strangers inward a Strange Land. This American Life. Retrieved Feb 16, 2009 from http://www.thisamericanlife.org/Radio_Episode.aspx?episode=302
- Someone in 1 lawsuit said, "If you're non willing to live changed past times a place, there's no betoken inward going." This week, stories close what happens when yous dry soil inward a whole novel world.
Author. (n.d.). Immigration to the United States. Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
Pennsylvania Immigration as well as Citizenship Coalition: (from the website) "a various grouping that brings together professionals, advocates as well as immigrant groups of dissimilar backgrounds to part data as well as resources, position mutual problems, as well as advocate for solutions."
Poggioli, S. (2008, Dec 7). Americans, Europeans split upwards on immigration views. National Public Radio. Retrieved Feb 16, 2009 from http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=97920805
States of America Immigration Support. http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/
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APA (6th ed) citation for this podcast:
Singer, J. B. (Host). (2009, Feb 16). Social run amongst immigrants as well as refugees: Interview amongst Elaine Congress, Ph.D. as well as Fernando Changy-Muy, J.D. [Episode 48]. Social Work Podcast. Podcast retrieved from /search?q=visual-assessment-tools-culturagram
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