[Episode 91] Today's episode of the Social Work Podcast is almost shared trauma, one inwards which the provider too customer experienced the same traumatic lawsuit simultaneously. If you're non familiar with the concept of shared trauma, no worries. It is a relatively novel concept, but ane that has been experienced equally long equally in that location conduct hold been helpers and... helpees.
In monastic enjoin to amend empathise shared trauma, I spoke with doc Carol Tosone, ane of a handful of scholars whose writings too enquiry conduct hold defined shared trauma. doc Tosone is Associate Professor at New York University Silver School of Social Work. She is a Distinguished Scholar inwards Social Work inwards the National Academies of Practice inwards Washington, D.C.
In today's episode, doc Tosone unpacks the concept of shared trauma. She uses her personal experience of beingness inwards a therapy session on September 11, 2001, when the showtime plane flew over her building, too how sharing the trauma of 9/11 with her customer affected her professional person too personal life. During our conversation she answered many questions: How does a concurrent experience of the same traumatic lawsuit equally your customer touching on the handling relationship? In what ways is it beneficial to the handling relationship? How do you lot know when it is detrimental? We goal our conversation with recommendations for practitioners.
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IntroductionMelanie Sage: This is doc Melanie Sage. I'm filling inwards for Jonathan Singer who lost his phonation this morn too was unable to tape the introduction to today's episode. He said I could tell you lot to cheque out my novel podcast - childwelfarepodcast.com.
This is Episode 91. Today's episode of the Social Work Podcast is almost shared trauma. If you're non familiar with the concept of shared trauma, no worries. It is a relatively novel concept, but ane that has been experienced equally long equally in that location conduct hold been helpers and... helpees. Trauma is normally understood to endure something that is emotionally painful, distressing, too overwhelms a person's powerfulness to cope.
Judith Herman, inwards her classic text "Trauma too Recovery" noted that “Traumatic events are extraordinary, non because they occur rarely, but rather because they overwhelm the ordinary human adaptations to life” (Herman, 1997, p. 33) We oft associate trauma with the somebody who experiences the adverse event, such equally survivors of abuse, state of war machine veterans, or victims of abhor crimes.
There is also historical trauma, which "refers to cumulative emotional too psychological wounding, exceeding over an private lifespan too across generations, caused yesteryear important grouping traumatic experiences" Examples of peoples or populations that conduct hold experienced historical trauma include First Nations People, too children of Holocaust survivors.
Social workers are also familiar with secondary trauma, which is when a provider experiences trauma symptoms equally a outcome of working with someone who has been traumatized. In secondary trauma the worker takes on the trauma of the client.
Today's episode is almost a relatively novel agreement of trauma - ane inwards which the provider too customer experienced the same traumatic lawsuit simultaneously. Think, 9/11 or working inwards a state of war zone, or many many other situations. After listening to this episode, you'll endure able to position events where shared trauma mightiness conduct hold occured.
In monastic enjoin to amend empathise shared trauma, I spoke with doc Carol Tosone, ane of a handful of scholars whose writings too enquiry conduct hold defined shared trauma. doc Tosone is Associate Professor at New York University Silver School of Social Work. She is a Distinguished Scholar inwards Social Work inwards the National Academies of Practice inwards Washington, D.C.
In today's episode, doc Tosone unpacks the concept of shared trauma. She uses her personal experience of beingness inwards a therapy session on September 11, 2001, when the showtime plane flew over her building, too how sharing the trauma of 9/11 with her customer affected her professional person too personal life. During our conversation she answered many questions: How does a concurrent experience of the same traumatic lawsuit equally your customer touching on the handling relationship? In what ways is it beneficial to the handling relationship? How do you lot know when it is detrimental? We goal our conversation with recommendations for practitioners.
Don't forget to cheque out my podcast at childwelfarepodcast.com. And now, without farther ado, on to Episode 91 of the Social Work Podcast. Shared Trauma: An Interview with Carol Tosone.
(One Federal Reserve annotation almost today's episode. I recorded my interview with doc Tosone inwards March of 2014 inwards a hotel room inwards Chicago. At times you lot tin hear doors opening too closing, too I think I heard a vacuum cleaner off inwards the distance.)
Interview
[03:34]
Jonathan Singer: Carol, thank you lot thence much for beingness hither on the social piece of work podcast talking almost shared trauma. The showtime inquiry is: what’s the departure betwixt principal trauma, secondary trauma, too shared trauma?
Carol Tosone: Well, what’s interesting is that shared trauma incorporates aspects of both Primary too Secondary Trauma but yet it's qualitatively dissimilar from both. So, Primary Trauma is, let's tell you lot were involved inwards 9/11, you lot were direct impacted, that's Primary Trauma. If you're working with a customer who was exposed to 9/11 themselves too you’re hearing their narrative of the trauma, too thence that's Secondary Trauma. But what happens if both you lot too the customer were simultaneously exposed to the same collective trauma, that's Shared Trauma. So inwards other words, you lot both know it inwards a really personal upfront way equally good equally inwards a secondary indirect way.
[4:34]
Jonathan Singer: Because you lot were proverb that you lot were inwards your business office during 9/11 with a customer when the planes flew overhead, right?
Carol Tosone: Absolutely, that really spurred my involvement inwards Shared Trauma enquiry because I was sitting with a customer too typical session too the plane flew over the edifice too it was thence loud you lot could barely hear my client. The windows were rattling. We had no thought what was going on too it really wasn't till the session was done too went outside.
My business office is unopen plenty to the Towers that you lot could reckon everything burning it was really a horrific sight too people were going around with all kinds of theories almost what had occurred too people at that signal were withal thinking it was somewhat of an accident but it was a really surreal experience just to witness it.
[5:25]
Jonathan Singer: And your client, you lot guys left the edifice together?
Carol Tosone: No, actually, he had left before too and thence had contacted me after just to tell here's what had happened. But what was hard is that most of my clients alive too piece of work Downtown. So I had a customer working inwards ane of the Towers.
I had clients that worked nearby too they just told horrific stories of beingness caught inwards the soot too the cloud of dust going yesteryear too it's interesting because I think equally clinicians nosotros aid almost our clients, too if anyone would conduct hold told me I love my clients I would tell them they're crazy, I aid almost them professionally but when you're hearing or you're concerned that somebody mightiness conduct hold died you lot genuinely realize how much you lot love that somebody equally a somebody too you lot desire to brand sure they're okay. So I recollect getting calls after from people too crying when they contacted me to permit me know they were okay too similarly I was getting calls from clients to brand sure that I was okay since I'm Downtown. So what it does is it creates a whole novel score of intimacy inwards the transference/counter transference matrix.
You know, I'm a relational theorist too a relational practitioner too I'm trained analytically too I'm really large on the egalitarian nature of the therapeutic dyad but when this happens it's a leveling experience beyond whatever others because you're both going through it together equally human beings primarily before you're a customer or a clinician.
[6:59]
Jonathan Singer: How does sharing this traumatic experience alter what happens inwards the therapy room? How does it alter the way you lot relate to the client?
Carol Tosone: Well at nowadays you've shared something together. So, with this item customer whatever reference to 9/11 nosotros tin just form of seem at ane some other too know, speak over it around the anniversary how it was. But what I flora what was fascinating is people were busy trying to accept aid of me, to brand sure I was okay since I was working with a lot of people who were doing that. I was doing a lot of volunteer piece of work too thence you lot had clients that wanted to accept aid of you lot too it's really tempting to tell them your narrative too it's really tempting to permit them accept aid of you lot but you lot can't too that's ane of the things that's really cautionary almost shared trauma because you lot conduct hold to endure careful because it really creates a to a greater extent than permanent form of alteration inwards the boundaries betwixt self too others, customer too clinician thence you lot conduct hold to endure mindful of where things are to brand sure that whatever self-disclosure you lot brand is inwards the service of your customer too non of yourself.
[8:09]
Jonathan Singer: Which is something that sure neophyte clinicians, novel clinicians e'er struggle with too my supposition is that equally clinicians travel to a greater extent than seasoned too travel to a greater extent than comfortable with utilization of self it becomes less of a temptation to sort of speak almost yourself because it feels good.
But it sounds similar you're proverb that when there's a shared trauma it farther muddies the H2O because it's non necessarily I'm talking almost this because I demand to but if I don't speak almost this or if I don't admit this, if I sort of ignore that I conduct hold had this experience too thence it somehow is disingenuous to the therapeutic relationship.
Carol Tosone: Exactly, because they'll know it's different. Let's tell for lawsuit if I'm a customer too I conduct hold a history of sexual abuse at nowadays if I inquire you lot too let's tell you lot had a history equally good it's your prerogative whether you lot or non you lot desire to self-disclose it too hopefully you lot would brand sure if you lot did it was inwards service of helping me, but I don't know, thence it's guesswork.
I may assume you lot were, I may infer, whatever, but when, but if I tell to you lot I travel through 9/11 too I know you lot alive Downtown it's non good did you lot experience 9/11 I know you lot did too you lot know I did, thence it becomes a score of awareness too cognition that can't endure denied too it's a shared collective experience which brings almost every form of feeling you lot could imagine, politically around community service too it brings upwardly thence many issues inwards a way that each somebody has an watch too it's hard to leave of absence those out of the encounter.
[9:48]
Jonathan Singer: So when you're working with a customer too in that location is this shared trauma what are some of the things that you lot seem out for to either tell this is how we're using this shared experience helpfully too this is something where it is really making it tough to do proficient clinical work?
Carol Tosone: Well, I think what I utilization equally cautionary inwards a way is when I discovery talking to a greater extent than than my customer or when I discovery that I'm using whatever excuse I tin to tell my narrative of my experience, too thence it's really inwards my service. I had ane customer who offered to skip their session thence that I tin travel along to do volunteer piece of work thence that they could assist me out, too thence I knew my counter transference clearly over the top when my customer is busy taking aid of me. I clearly demonstrated that something was incorrect or that I needed a break, thence that's when you lot know for sure it isn't inwards service.
But what you lot could do is you lot tin utilization it, just similar you lot tin percentage you lot sense of something, your sense of outrage almost the experience or your sense of beingness touched yesteryear something you lot saw inwards the community too only utilization that equally a jumping off signal to larn your client's perspective on it too inviting them into it, but the focus is on them too their experience. In other words, you're using your data but to a greater extent than to deepen theirs.
[11:15]
Jonathan Singer: So we've talked a lot almost 9/11 but equally we're talking I'm thinking of many dissimilar form of large scale disasters or crises where this shared trauma mightiness really endure an experience that therapists too clients have. I am thinking of natural disasters, tsunamis, but also a lot of the schoolhouse shootings that we’ve heard almost lately where you lot conduct hold schoolhouse staff who are inwards the edifice too they mightiness non endure the Social Workers but there's a shared trauma in that location also.
Carol Tosone: Right too that's a cracking instance because what happens is if you lot are thence primarily traumatized you lot really can't assist others until you lot assist yourself.
I did 2 studies ane inwards regard to the long term impact of 9/11 on clinicians too equally good equally the long term impact of Hurricane Katrina for clinicians practicing inwards New Orleans too what's fascinating is that we're helpers. Social Workers are helpers. So when something happens nosotros straightaway desire to accept the helplessness of that province of affairs too bound into activity thence nosotros we're going to assist other people because that's what nosotros do, we're do-gooders, we're doers, but for some people that helped them procedure the trauma. It helped them experience similar some sense of self efficacy inwards the human face upwardly of this overwhelming helplessness. But for others they were besides traumatized too they really didn't conduct hold the emotional resources to assist someone else too what nosotros tell to people is it's okay if you lot experience that, you lot can't assist somebody until you lot experience that you're inwards a proficient position too nosotros conduct hold to maintain inwards heed that everybody's private responses to the principal nature of the trauma that they've experienced thence if you lot tin assist others too that nourishes you lot too, cracking too thence conduct hold that approach but if you lot experience besides overwhelmed don't. In New Orleans for lawsuit in that location were some clinicians that they lost their homes. They were trying to larn grounded inwards the same lawsuit their agencies were expecting them to endure working overtime.
Some people reported a lot of resentment, because how tin you lot accept aid of others unless you lot accept aid of your ain or you lot know your menage unit of measurement is settled before you're helping somebody making sure theirs is. So you lot conduct hold to maintain that inwards mind, it's a fragile residue of self too other too you lot conduct hold to endure able to endure replenished inwards monastic enjoin to assist other people.
[13:53]
Jonathan Singer: So there's this Primary Trauma too it brand sense if you're a Social Worker inwards New Orleans too your occupation solid is gone too you're trying to bargain with that, that's you're Primary Trauma, you lot are dealing with your traumatic experience.
Carol Tosone: Which yesteryear the way it's okay to admit that you lot were traumatized.
We're really proficient at telling other people to larn into counseling, but for ourselves nosotros tend to non endure too tell okay we're non affected.
[14:19]
Jonathan Singer: I gauge I'm trying to empathise the human relationship betwixt what it looks similar when it's shared trauma. Does this brand sense?
Carol Tosone: Yes. It becomes a shared cognition all the way along thence you lot conduct hold the do goodness of knowing how they reacted earlier. You tin anticipate anniversary reactions. You tin anticipate things that are coming upwardly where other micro traumas if you lot will, may trigger the before experience.
[14:47]
Jonathan Singer: Because you lot yourself are experiencing them besides or it's thence familiar to you lot that you lot are able to anticipate, you lot are able to reckon things.
Carol Tosone: Right, exactly, but it also happens for lawsuit inwards New Orleans. It was a really dissimilar experience from 9/11. Manmade disasters nosotros know it is to a greater extent than hard to overcome than whatever other type of disaster that's what the literature too the meta analyses show. But inwards the damage of the natural disaster for instance, in that location were people who were able to leave of absence but their clients weren't too their clients were left behind. So when the after they're interviewing, the therapist is interviewing the client, too the customer says, "Well what did you lot do?" too the therapist says "I was able to leave of absence with my menage unit of measurement too friends" too ane customer says, "Figures." So the guilt that the therapist experience because of the privilege too the economical powerfulness to larn away when your customer can't the score of guilt, almost a survivor guilt that ane experiences really complicates the province of affairs too also you lot tin reckon how socioeconomic status, race, all other things play a constituent too really form of complicate it both positively too negatively, it really depends on how each dyad negotiates that sense of difference.
[16:13]
Jonathan Singer: So from a relational perspective if there's a therapist too customer that conduct hold shared this traumatic experience, New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina, too the therapist because of powerfulness too privilege was able to leave of absence too the customer wasn't, what would that do to the therapeutic human relationship that mightiness complicate it that mightiness larn inwards problematic where the shared trauma would really travel almost an impediment to the customer getting better?
Carol Tosone: I would think of it equally an chance to address underlying issues that where in that location all along. So, clients tin sure tell the departure inwards socioeconomic condition yesteryear the way nosotros dress, yesteryear the way nosotros speak, yesteryear a lot of factors, too thence what it just does is it provides an chance to say, you're a conduct hold too I'm a conduct hold non too it makes sense because you lot were able to larn away too I couldn't too I'm angry at you lot too your powerfulness to do something I can't. So if you're helping me, assist me out of the province of affairs I'm in. So, it provides an chance to address departure inwards a way where it's oppressive to the somebody that you're working with too you lot travel symbolic too representative of a gild too the community too the civilization that really is hierarchical too where they're at a disadvantage too you're not. So I watch it to a greater extent than equally an chance too I don't think that clinicians should shy away from whatever intelligence that a customer initiates around that.
[18:01]
Jonathan Singer: So there's this experience, 9/11, Hurricane Katrina, there's Primary Trauma, there's a Shared Trauma too if I'm thinking almost these way Social Workers who are asked to come upwardly dorsum from Hurricane Katrina spell they were withal dealing with their ain materials too supply services. How do agencies respond or empathise this thought of Shared Trauma?
Carol Tosone: Well, what was fascinating comparing the population I looked at inwards New York to New Orleans. In New York, nosotros captured a dissimilar grouping nosotros tended to larn the therapist inwards private practice, who were to a greater extent than Midtown or Lower they had a higher income too inwards New Orleans most of the therapists were to a greater extent than way based and what happened is really inwards both samples they were really angry that they felt the professional person organizations didn't do plenty to accept aid of the clinicians, they didn't do plenty to educate them almost trauma too they were angry that they didn't serve a to a greater extent than useful hands on function. But, specially inwards Hurricane Katrina what nosotros flora was that people were angry with the agencies that they permit them downwards because the expectation that they should endure working too helping others spell they were going through the trauma, they felt that they weren't really taken aid of.
I'd utilization the analogy of a professional person belongings environment, they were non belongings their clinicians good too interestingly these clinicians experience higher levels of shared trauma than those inwards New York. Both because of the repetitive nature of hurricane flavour twelvemonth after year, but also the fact that professionally they were non beingness held properly.
[19:50]
Jonathan Singer: Wow, that's a really interesting idea. So you're proverb that way could cut the trauma for the providers yesteryear beingness a to a greater extent than supportive, security position for them.
Carol Tosone: You know I think Shared Trauma has a lot to tell theoretically, clinically. But on a policy score too a computer program score I think it has a ton to tell inwards damage of what functions our agencies too our professional person organizations demand to serve inwards these instances too their membership, their employees are also their clients inwards this sense because they tin alone assist people equally much equally they're beingness helped themselves. I think it really says a lot almost what they demand to offering inwards damage of self-care, allowances for dissimilar things, thence that's on that level. On a theoretical level, it gives novel important to the term Relational Practice, endure it Relational Social Work or Relational Therapy because it's non only, in that location is some hierarchy but it really is an equal experience, it's an equalizing experience, there's e'er some sense of hierarchy but equalizes things.
[21:11]
Jonathan Singer: So you lot mentioned that there's a departure betwixt 9/11 beingness a one-time matter too and thence inwards New Orleans, obviously, Hurricane Katrina was a one-time matter but they conduct hold hurricanes thence there's this to a greater extent than ongoing event, but it's flavour yesteryear season. I know that in that location are parts of the public where in that location are traumatic events happening all of the time, I am thinking state of war zones too places similar that. Is the concept of Shared Trauma useful concept inwards a position where in that location is this constant shared trauma?
Does that brand sense?
Carol Tosone: Absolutely, too this is non a term that I necessarily coined. This is a term that's strikingly, independently, myself too a number of other people had used post service 9/11 too equally good inwards State of Israel they used a related build called Shared Traumatic Reality too it's really pertinent too I’ve been there. I've taught at Sapir College, correct on the border of the Gaza Strip, where they at times tin have, just a calendar week or thence ago, they had something similar 60 missiles that entered their town, correct yesteryear the College too you lot never know when they're going to come upwardly too you lot conduct hold xv seconds to discovery shelter too they utilization the term Shared Traumatic Reality because what happens is every 24-hour interval at whatever fourth dimension they conduct hold to endure primed for trauma, they conduct hold to endure primed that something tin happen. So, for lawsuit when I lectured I was told that I could non article of apparel my picayune stiletto heels why, I had to article of apparel flats thence that I could run quick. You lecture inwards a bomb protected classroom, let's tell nosotros experience something nosotros mightiness run together if we're customer too therapist. But what happens if the siren goes off too I'm the therapist too I tell to you lot okay nosotros got to travel the bomb shelter which nosotros conduct hold xv seconds to travel to too you lot tell no I'm tired of running I'm going to remain here. Look at that ethical quandary. Do you lot stay? Do you lot go? Do you lot assist you lot customer or do you lot just accept comprehend yourself?
[23:27]
Jonathan Singer: I'm listening to this too I conduct hold no idea. And this a inquiry that people conduct hold to consider all of the time.
Carol Tosone: Every day. They conduct hold to inquire themselves those questions every day.
[23:39]
Jonathan Singer: So what's the answer?
Carol Tosone: There, good reckon that's the trick, in that location is no definitive reply around what to do. And what you lot do is on the times when it isn't happening you lot negotiate that too champaign you lot would demand to travel too protect yourself. But, hither are people that are busy taking aid of others continuously spell they conduct hold a threat hanging over their caput equally well. And thence I give tremendous credit to them too there's 3 colleagues inwards item that I conduct hold collaborated with who are on the vanguard of this, Rachel Dekel, Nehami Baum Orit Nuttman-Shwartz, who is also a dearest friend thence these are people I at nowadays worry almost too aid almost on a daily basis. So when I'm busy writing almost the importance almost my 9/11 experience it pales yesteryear comparing to what they alive every 24-hour interval too every second.
[24:39]
Jonathan Singer: So in that location seems to endure a conceptual departure betwixt Shared Traumatic Reality too Shared Trauma when I hear it, I think reality, similar this is our everyday 24-hour interval to 24-hour interval reality.
Carol Tosone: Absolutely too it's interesting because what it does that you lot reckon is it brings almost a sure dissociative chemical component inwards one's everyday living experience. So, if nosotros are sitting correct at nowadays inwards Israel, nosotros tin endure having a conversation, nosotros hear a loud dissonance too you lot too I mightiness react really strongly because nosotros both on ane score we're sitting enjoying the experience but too thence our perceptions are called to activity our struggle flying response inwards a nanosecond volition boot in, yet inwards a dissociative way able to savour 24-hour interval yesteryear 24-hour interval simultaneously having this score of awareness this alertness if you lot volition create to travel at whatever time.
[25:41]
Jonathan Singer: I wouldn't ever desire to tell people should travel into a state of war zone, because it volition brand you lot a amend person, but sure you lot hear people talking almost how they've grown from these experiences. Is in that location whatever do goodness of this?
Carol Tosone: I think imbedded inwards what you're call for me at nowadays is really tin people grow from trauma? Which is really post service traumatic growth, Tedeschi too Calhoun's build which is absolutely wonderful.
Certainly people grow from trauma, nosotros know that that tin happen. And it was really really touching what a number of my respondents had wrote almost how they changed their lives because of 9/11.
Some people got married, some people they decided they didn't desire to conduct hold a exercise total time, ane somebody left the Field, because they said how tin I hear to people's hurting all 24-hour interval I desire a break. And what nosotros flora is that people personally were taking aid of themselves amend too professionally thence my colleague Jennifer Bauwens too I really coined the seem professional person post service traumatic increment because it's non alone on a personal score professionally people grow too brand changes that brand them amend clinicians, amend therapists equally a outcome of the experience, they larn amend at taking aid of themselves endure it through education, self-care, score of knowledge
[27:11]
Jonathan Singer: Does it conduct hold to endure an intentional process?
Carol Tosone: No, non all. It's to a greater extent than of an automatic procedure because people conduct hold permanent alterations oft times inwards their sense of self too others, you lot know, that's what happens, but also you lot tin reckon the increment too the sense of community that tin occur too also it gives you lot an chance to reckon the resiliency that kicks inwards that was striking almost New Orleans they were really resilient too you lot mightiness inquire are they resilient or are they avoidant?
[27:42]
Jonathan Singer: Okay that's interesting tin you lot speak a picayune fleck almost the departure betwixt resilient too avoidant.
Carol Tosone: Well what nosotros looked at with both 9/11 too Hurricane Katrina was nosotros looked at the nature of people's attachment styles, insecure attachment styles, too what nosotros flora inwards New Orleans was that people were traumatized but it tended to endure to a greater extent than around avoidant form of trauma. So ane could tell that inwards New Orleans they're splendid at partying too enjoying themselves too could that endure an aspect of avoidant attachment styles if you lot will, it's really just a hypothesis at this point, but sure what nosotros flora is people who are to a greater extent than traumatized had to a greater extent than shared were by too large less resilient.
So there's an inverse human relationship betwixt trauma equally good equally secondary trauma too of course of study the composite build of shared trauma too resiliency the to a greater extent than resilient you lot normally the less traumatized you lot are too vice versa it's almost similar an inoculation effect.
[28:43]
Jonathan Singer: Do you lot conduct hold whatever advice for Social Work students or educators around what to do, how to think almost shared trauma, sort of what the importance of what this concept is too why it should endure something people think about?
Carol Tosone: Certainly, anybody that's been inwards an expanse impacted yesteryear floods, hurricanes, earthquakes, whatever other natural disaster, manmade disaster, too if you lot think almost it with global warming, climate change, increasingly to a greater extent than too to a greater extent than people are practicing inwards these types of environments. So to endure mindful of that, they are going to endure primarily impacted the to a greater extent than they're aware of it, the to a greater extent than they are taking aid of themselves the amend they tin assist others. I e'er tell that I tin summarize how you lot really protect yourself from it with 3 words: Have a Life.
If you lot conduct hold a life that volition inoculate you lot from the impact of the demanding although rewarding work, nosotros do every day. As good equally how nosotros ourselves equally human beings are impacted similarly similar our clients. We travel through the same life events equally they do.
[29:59]
Jonathan Singer: Well, Carol. Thank you lot thence much for taking the fourth dimension too talking with us hither today on the Social Work Podcast almost Shared Trauma.
Carol Tosone: My pleasure. Thank You.
[30:08]
Jonathan Singer: I'm Jonathan Singer too thank you lot for beingness with me today for some other episode of the Social Work Podcast. If you lot missed an episode or conduct hold suggestions for hereafter episodes, delight see www.socialworkpodcast.com. If you'd similar to back upwardly the Podcast, delight see our online shop at www.cafepress.com/swpodcast. To all of the Social Workers out in that location maintain upwardly the proficient piece of work we'll reckon you lot side yesteryear side fourth dimension at the Social Work Podcast.
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Transcription generously donated yesteryear Raashida M. Edwards, LMSW Couples Therapist, Institute for Contemporary Psychotherapy New York, New York.
Bio
Carol Tosone, Ph.D. is Associate Professor at New York University Silver School of Social Work too recipient of the NYU Distinguished Teaching Award. doc Tosone is a Distinguished Scholar inwards Social Work inwards the National Academies of Practice inwards Washington, D.C. She completed her psychoanalytic preparation at the Postgraduate Center for Mental Health inwards New York City where she was the recipient of the Postgraduate Memorial Award. doc Tosone received a Fulbright Senior Specialist Award for teaching at the Hanoi University of Education inwards Vietnam, too also served equally a visiting professor at Hyllum University inwards Republic of Korea too Sanata Dhara University inwards Indonesia. She taught equally Distinguished Visiting Lydia Rappaport Professor at Smith College for Social Work, too at the University of Pennsylvania Clinical Social Work Doctoral Program. Prior to her engagement at NYU, doc Tosone was Assistant Professor of Social Work inwards Psychiatry at Temple University School of Medicine inwards Philadelphia. doc Tosone is Editor-in-Chief of the Clinical Social Work Journal too serves on the editorial boards or equally a consulting reviewer to vi professional person journals. doc Tosone is author of professional person articles too mass chapters, co-editor of 2 books, too executive producer too author of educational too community service media. Since joining the NYU faculty, doc Tosone has delivered over 100 professional person papers too presentations inwards academic, medical, too mental wellness settings inwards the United States, equally good equally international venues inwards Asia, Europe, the Middle East too South America.References too Resources
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Singer, J. B. (Producer). (2014, September 11). #91 – Shared trauma: Interview with Carol Tosone, Ph.D. [Audio Podcast]. Social Work Podcast. Retrieved from /search?q=psychoanalytic-treatment-in
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