According to a 2011 RAND report, "Since Oct 2001, roughly 2 meg U.S. troops have got deployed every bit constituent of Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) in addition to Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF). Many of these previously deployed individuals have got since left the armed forces or retired, in addition to most previously deployed National Guard in addition to reservists have got returned to their seat communities" (Schell et al, 2011, p. iii). These "community domicile veterans" seek services where they alive – inwards their communities. So, for all of yous who operate inwards communities – in addition to that's everyone – chances are you're providing services to veterans in addition to their families. And that's the primary focus of today's armed forces social work. And yet, most of us, unless nosotros operate direct with the military, have got no thought what mightiness live required for effective do with this population.
By all accounts, the wars inwards Transitional Islamic State of Afghanistan in addition to Republic of Iraq have got exacted a important damage on community domicile veterans in addition to their families. In response to this need, inwards 2010, the Council on Social Work Education published guidelines for educational competencies for advanced social operate do inwards armed forces social work. The authors of these guidelines explained, "with no destination inwards sight in addition to the ultimate results of these wars uncertain, nosotros are instantly challenged with both a armed forces that is exhibiting the stress-related consequences of these long in addition to multiple scrap deployments in addition to a rapidly growing veteran population inwards demand of a broad make of combat-related physical in addition to mental wellness attention services. Every community inwards the USA has been affected, in addition to service delivery systems are trying to respond. Military social work, every bit a patch of do in addition to research, is critical to our relevance every bit social workers, to the advancement of novel career options, in addition to inwards our leadership with the helping professions... This does non hateful that nosotros endorse state of war or aggression, but rather that nosotros extend meaningful assist to those who have got been affected. This is a 2d inwards history when nosotros tin reassert our cardinal influence every bit a pivotal healing profession inwards the midst of wartime in addition to inwards the aftermath past times promoting a vigorous social operate inquiry agenda in addition to appropriate preparation to effectively laid armed forces social workers" (CWSE, 2010, p. 2).
In lodge to improve empathise both the preparation in addition to teaching of armed forces social workers, I spoke with a human being who is on the forefront of the electrical flow reconceptualization of armed forces social work. My guest, Anthony Hassan, is a retired Air Force officeholder with 25 years of experience inwards armed forces social work. He served during Operation Iraqi Freedom inwards 2004 on the first-ever Air Force scrap stress command in addition to prevention squad embedded with an Army unit. He led the largest armed forces inwardness abuse in addition to draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement advocacy programs inwards the Pacific which were recognized every bit benchmark programs in addition to preparation sites for all other Pacific bases. He chaired the commission responsible for creating the Council on Social Work Education's model for advanced social operate do inwards armed forces social operate (CSWE, 2010) which I quoted a few minutes ago. And, if those bona fides aren't enough, he is currently the manager of the Center for Innovation in addition to Research on Veterans in addition to Military Families at the University of Southern California's School of Social Work.
In today's Social Work Podcast, Anthony in addition to I talked nigh the how the Definition of armed forces social operate has changed over time, how educators in addition to practitioners tin utilization the CSWE guidelines, opportunities for advanced preparation at the master's in addition to doctoral flat inwards armed forces social operate at USC's schoolhouse of social work, in addition to online certificate programs for non-USC students. We talked nigh the utilization of a "virtual patient" every bit constituent of the preparation program. We talked nigh the cardinal purpose that the profession of social operate could in addition to should play addressing the issues faced past times active duty military, community domicile veterans, in addition to their families. We talked nigh the kinds of jobs that armed forces social workers do. We ended our conversation with some resources for listeners wanting to know more.
Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 dyad of notes nigh this interview. Anthony in addition to I spoke for an hr in addition to a half. Our conversation nigh teaching in addition to preparation genuinely happened inwards the 2d one-half of our interview. Because I'm presenting it every bit "Part I" at that spot are a dyad of times when he makes reference to data that nosotros discussed inwards the starting fourth dimension of the conversation… which is instantly Part II. I promise that's non likewise confusing. Another affair that stands out nigh this interview is that, for the firstly time, I invited fans of the Social Work Podcast Facebook page to submit questions for Anthony. The response was fantastic. There were over twenty questions, most of which I couldn't ask. But those that were suggested on Facebook I identified every bit such. So, give thank yous you to everyone who posted questions – you'll recognize your contribution to this interview. And I'll definitely live squall for folks to submit questions for hereafter podcasts. Finally, every bit with all my remote interviews, this 1 was done using Skype. Anthony was inwards Los Angeles in addition to I was 3,000 miles away inwards Philadelphia. And now, without farther ado, on to episode 68 of the Social Work Podcast, The Training in addition to Education of Military Social Workers: An Interview with Dr. Anthony Hassan.
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Jonathan Singer: So, let's speak nigh this for a minute. Let's speak nigh the training–
Anthony Hassan: Mm-hmm.
Jonathan Singer: – that yous think that social workers should acquire inwards lodge to operate best with these community-dwelling veterans in addition to nosotros tin speak specifically nigh the CSWE Guidelines for Advanced Voluntary Social Work Practice that you’d shared. We tin speak nigh the plan at USC. You know, 1 of the questions on Facebook was what is the academic preparation inwards armed forces social workers expression like? Do schools of social operate with armed forces social operate concentrations render extra preparation on specific topics? And specifically, does USC’s concentration inwards armed forces social operate differ from other schools of social operate that have got concentrations inwards armed forces social work?
Anthony Hassan: Great, non bad questions in addition to I'll likely reply them inwards a roundabout way in addition to 1 of the questions was well, what is a armed forces social worker and, yous know, we, the CSWE Steering Committee that I chair, nosotros had to figure that out. We had to define what is armed forces social work. Is armed forces social operate only those who article of apparel the uniform in addition to who serve inwards the Armed Forces? What about, yous know, folks inwards Homeland Security in addition to Public Health, are they armed forces social workers? Or, what nigh the civilian social worker who industrial plant exterior the armed forces base, are they a armed forces – hence what is it? And I think inwards a nutshell, it's basically anyone who has worked with a service member, a veteran or their draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement fellow member would live a armed forces social worker.
So, if the do of social operate is what you're doing in addition to you're primarily seeing veterans in addition to service members in addition to their families in addition to then nosotros would telephone yell upward that armed forces social operate in addition to we've tried to define the competencies, the advanced do behaviors in addition to cognition that yous demand to do this operate in addition to they're clearly spelled out inwards the CSWE Guidebook but, yous know, that was something nosotros had to wrestle with, yous know, every bit a armed forces individual my firstly thought was I don’t similar that because I've e'er thought of armed forces social operate every bit beingness those who wore the uniform or who are wearing the uniform in addition to doing social operate inwards the military.
But, yous know, that was – that’s likewise narrow in addition to that’s why nosotros said nosotros want to live to a greater extent than inclusive rather than exclusive in addition to nosotros basically have got said if you're working with veteran service members or their families in addition to the primary focus of your operate is to advocate for them, broker them, render clinical services, navigate systems for them in addition to then nosotros would telephone yell upward yous armed forces social work.
Jonathan Singer: Do yous think that’s a Definition that is dissimilar instantly than it would have got been inwards tell 1995? Is constituent of your discomfort inwards constituent because yous went through the military, yous know, you're a veteran in addition to yous retired from the armed forces in addition to yous were, yous know, but times have got changed, is that constituent of it?
Anthony Hassan: Absolutely. I think times have got changed in addition to I think, yous know, dorsum inwards ’95 I likely would have got entirely identified armed forces social operate every bit someone who wore the uniform inwards the Department of Defense in addition to who was a social worker inwards the service. But I've rapidly realized instantly that the demand is greater in addition to the most demand is non inwards the services exterior of the service in addition to I think for social operate it's fourth dimension for us to pace up, yous know, it's fourth dimension for us to encompass this population in addition to recognize their needs. We shouldn’t lose this 2d inwards time. We genuinely demand to capture it inwards a way that says, yous know, nosotros demand to have got a profession called armed forces social operate because at that spot are many people who are doing this but also the laid – in addition to whenever yous have got an identified profession or specialty, yous have got to have got competencies in addition to hence 1 time nosotros developed the competencies, it was real clear to us that at that spot are specific cognition in addition to skills that yous volition demand if you're going to do this in addition to hence those who have got that, those are the ones that nosotros want to telephone yell upward armed forces social work.
Jonathan Singer: And so, hence instantly at that spot are these competencies in addition to do social operate preparation programs with specializations inwards armed forces social work, do they follow this model?
Anthony Hassan: Well, that was the whole promise in addition to wishing in addition to that’s what nosotros want. We beingness the CSWE, nosotros beingness the Steering Committee in addition to the taskforce all felt that if you're going to constitute a course, a sub-concentration or a concentration, a specialty, whatever yous want to telephone yell upward it inside your schoolhouse of social work, yous genuinely needed to have got a clear agreement of what it is that yous were preparation to. What are the outcomes? What would live the walk-away competencies that you’d hold off the educatee to have got if you're going to have got a course? So, this is a guidebook to genuinely assist someone write a course, write a concentration or fifty-fifty improve embed some of these competencies throughout the entire curriculum hence when yous speak nigh families yous include armed forces families. When yous speak nigh culture, yous speak nigh armed forces culture. When yous speak about, yous know, systems, yous speak nigh navigating the VA or armed forces systems of care.
So, I’m hoping that all schools of social operate volition recognize that they demand to include inwards their curriculum some conversation in addition to they tin certainly utilization the guidebook to assist infuse these competencies in addition to outcomes inside all of the curriculum every bit they do for other populations, African-American, Hispanic, LBGT, etc. I mean, this is only some other population that nosotros demand to maintain to speak about. So, at that spot are some schools that have got said, yous know, hey, expression nosotros don’t want anything to do with this. Okay, okay, I acquire it. They can't seem to split mayhap state of war from the individuals in addition to families who are affected or impacted past times armed forces service. That’s fine. But at that spot are many schools who have got reached out to us in addition to have got attended many conference sessions where they're real interested inwards developing a class or a concentration similar nosotros have got hither at USC.
And the courses that nosotros have got come upward up with at USC may non live the correct ones or the correct sequence of those but we're studying them or we're continuing to expression at them in addition to acquire feedback but based on what the operate that CSWE in addition to the Steering grouping did, nosotros experience that these 4 courses sort of capture the competencies inwards a way that someone walks away feeling capable, competent, has the cognition in addition to has an chance to have got practiced these skills. So–
Jonathan Singer: And what are those 4 courses?
Anthony Hassan: Yeah, the 4 courses inwards our schoolhouse are 1 is Military Culture which is only a one-credit class but it's fifteen hours of genuinely agreement armed forces culture. Many of the things that I highlighted for yous from basic things similar what is Department of Defense? What are the dissimilar services? What are the dissimilar jobs all the way to confidentiality in addition to how do yous grapple that? So, that’s similar the core class everyone inwards this concentration has to accept that Military Cultures class in addition to and then of class they tin accept 2 of the adjacent 3 classes depending on what their focus is, if it's clinical, if it's health, if it's pocket-size fry in addition to family. So, they'll accept 2 of these 3 courses I’m nigh to mention.
The 2d class that nosotros experience is of import is Clinical Practice with Service Members in addition to Veterans. So, the thought of this class is to genuinely empathise the development, the armed forces life course, yous know, what's armed forces life about? How does that jibe upward with your development, your normal life development, looking at those strengths, some of the, what do yous telephone yell upward them, peril factors, protective factors every bit well, looking at mental health, talking nigh scrap stress reactions, talking nigh PTSD in addition to TBI in addition to they're genuinely teaching them nigh the evidence-based interventions. This course, nosotros effort to focus it on preparation to a greater extent than of the clinical do hence nosotros genuinely effort to drill downwards inwards those evidence-based interventions inwards a way that the students walks away with a laid of skills that they tin start to operate with mayhap inwards their internship.
The other class is the Military Impacted past times Military Service Course, agreement in addition to intervening with armed forces families in addition to families pregnant all families, mother, father, sister, brother, husband, wife, daughter, a boy hence we're trying to live extremely inclusive there. We're going to speak nigh draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement resilience. We're going to speak nigh armed forces draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement violence in addition to I know 1 of your questions that came inwards was nigh armed forces draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement violence, intimate partner violence in addition to hence nosotros volition enshroud that in addition to we'll speak nigh it. Again, there's hence much to cover. I don’t want this to live a survey class where we're roofing everything but there's hence much to enshroud in addition to sometimes that’s what happens in addition to that’s what I’m looking at adjusting with these courses, these 2 acquire away from doing, talking nigh everything but talking nigh key areas in addition to talking nigh them to a greater extent than inwards depth.
But over again it's talking hither nigh evidenced-based intervention models, cognitive behavioral therapies, emotionally focused couples therapy work, etc. And in addition to then the final class is 1 nosotros telephone yell upward Health Challenges for Wounded Warriors in addition to their Caregivers in addition to nosotros genuinely felt this class was necessary because of the number of men in addition to women who are coming dorsum with, yous know, wounds in addition to lifelong injuries in addition to amputations in addition to loss of sight, etc. but also the impact that it has on their caregivers, non entirely a spouse but a draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement fellow member or only looking at caregivers in addition to fifty-fifty therapists in addition to looking at secondary trauma, a vicarious trauma, etc.
So, nosotros felt it was of import to speak nigh these issues of wellness in addition to affliction in addition to disability but also for students to walk away with a goodness agreement of how these systems of attention inside the DOD in addition to the VA are servicing these veterans in addition to caring for them in addition to speak nigh policy issues inwards all of our courses nigh how to modify policy in addition to send on policy. So, nosotros think these are the courses that 1 should have got inwards a concentration but nosotros could live way off but we're studying them. We're definitely getting feedback in addition to nosotros have got adjusted over the final dyad of years each of the courses in addition to we're continuing to adjust. But they're all written with outcomes inwards heed from the CSWE Guidebook on armed forces social work.
But the key slice hither every bit nosotros know is a signature pedagogy for social operate is to patch placement in addition to that is the critical piece. The patch placement is a requirement inwards your 2d twelvemonth that yous have got to, yous have got your internship inwards a VA, a vet optic or a Veteran service organisation inwards the community but yous have got to operate with veterans either on a macro or micro do but you're definitely going to have got to operate with veterans. So, nosotros believe that is what sends this seat in addition to nosotros went from xiv students inwards this concentration 2 years agone to fourscore this year. We have got 200 who have got signed upward for adjacent year. It's only taken off. We have got over 1100 students inwards our plan on ground. Of course, nosotros only started at virtual academic plan web-based in addition to it looks similar nigh 20% of those students inwards MSW plan are interested inwards this concentration.
So, it's definitely growing in addition to I think, yous know, 1 has to do with only people have got a want to give dorsum but it's also a highly marketable specialization correct now. You know, the Department of Defense is looking for folks, the VA, contracting organizations. There are a number of non-profits that are springing upward all over our community. We have got over lx veteran-service type organizations inside the L.A. in addition to San Diego county area. So, there's a lot of opportunities for social workers to operate with veterans in addition to armed forces families in addition to also do macro operate every bit organizations grow in addition to develop inwards advocacy in addition to policy in addition to hence I think there's an attraction for many reasons for this concentration.
Jonathan Singer: So, 1 question, yous know, nosotros have got folks from all over the basis that take away heed to this podcast, tin anybody accept the intro class through USC? You said at that spot is a web-based component. Can somebody sign upward for that if they're inwards a schoolhouse of social operate that’s non USC or fifty-fifty non inwards the United States?
Anthony Hassan: Well, yes, good we're – well, they tin e'er do that in addition to that would live pretty expensive to accept the 1 credit class every bit a grade class but what we're doing instantly is we're taking the materials where we're genuinely converting it to certificates continuing teaching units in addition to we're going to have got inwards a highly interactive web-based format. So, yeah, someone who’s overseas who wanted to know nigh armed forces civilization but past times – inwards June we'll have got it upward where they'll live able to locomote online, pay a dyad 100 bucks in addition to acquire this class in addition to if yous wanted to a acquire a certificate, you’d have got to accept over again xl hours so.
Jonathan Singer: That sounds similar an amazing chance for social workers all over the USA in addition to fifty-fifty the basis to have got access to that type of specific preparation inwards armed forces civilization working with vets, their families, injuries, all that sort of stuff. That must live a huge project for yous guys to non entirely do the, yous know, the CSWE standards for your ain students but also thinking nigh it inwards terms of certificate programs that people tin accept online.
Anthony Hassan: Absolutely, it is in addition to that’s why nosotros have got a optic hither in addition to that’s what my optic is designed to do, is genuinely to live the leader inwards terms of teaching in addition to training, inquiry inwards a specific area, using inquiry to inform curriculum in addition to training. We've advanced some technologies, yous know, when the individual asked the inquiry about, yous know, has this state of war advanced the awareness in addition to cognition in addition to handling for PTSD in addition to nosotros were genuinely are developing a virtual patient, a veteran virtual patient. So, when nosotros speak nigh innovative technologies that’s constituent of it, is utilization a virtual patient hence that our students volition run across the virtual soldier earlier they run across the real firstly alive veteran. And hence technologies are growing in addition to that’s constituent of our optic in addition to our evolution hither at USC is to develop technologies that tin advance the do skills of clinicians in addition to students alike.
Jonathan Singer: I was at the Council on Social Work Education reception where USC unveiled this in addition to it was unbelievable seeing those apartment enshroud TVs where yous could inquire questions of this virtual reality customer in addition to have got them respond.
Anthony Hassan: Yeah.
Jonathan Singer: It was amazing. It was–
Anthony Hassan: Oh, it is amazing in addition to I’m real proud to live a constituent of this evolution in addition to it's inwards the early on stages but what makes us unique is this is the firstly fourth dimension we'll have got a standardized patient inwards social operate or fifty-fifty behavioral health. I presented inwards an Institute of Medicine’s panel nigh character assurance in addition to I had mentioned the virtual patient in addition to many folks became real interested inwards many applications. If yous would permit heed wander in addition to acquire creative, at that spot are many things that this virtual patient tin do for our profession. We tin have got a virtual patient for almost whatsoever customer nosotros want. We tin have got a virtual patient that helps us, helps our educatee larn nigh a suicidal patient how to interact. I mean, only basic stuff to advance stuff similar mensuration the handling fidelity of cognitive behavioral therapy of these clinician.
So, does this clinician genuinely know how to do CBT according to the manualized handling approach? We tin live maybe eventually downwards the route utilization it to license people, yous know. So, nosotros tin only permit our minds wander in addition to acquire creative with – this virtual patient has a lot of application. Now, at that spot are a lot of naysayers out at that spot who want to criticize it in addition to I would tell to them, yous know, it is new. It is a niggling intimidating in addition to scary but it's no way is this replacing a existent client. We're only maxim that this is an chance for students to interact with a standardized patient earlier they have their real firstly patient. And nosotros all recollect what it was similar the firstly fourth dimension nosotros had a suicidal patient or the firstly fourth dimension nosotros had a resistant patient or the firstly fourth dimension nosotros had an angry patient.
Jonathan Singer: Or an angry, suicidal, resistant patient.
Anthony Hassan: Exactly in addition to hence hither is an chance for your students to genuinely acquire that experience or something every bit unproblematic every bit what is your firstly 5 minutes similar with this veteran virtual patient, do in addition to it is only an amazing preparation chance in addition to we're going to live studying inwards in addition to looking at the immersability in addition to believability of this virtual patient hence that nosotros tin locomote far better. And nosotros have got – 1 of our partners is the Institute for Creative Technologies hither at USC in addition to they're well-known for the operate with virtual patients, virtual reality in addition to immersive sort of technology. So, we're real fortunate to have got a partner inwards our inquiry inwards our evolution similar ICT. So, yes, I’m real excited.
So, a lot of the operate that we're doing at the schoolhouse is out of the optic in addition to hence nosotros experience real fortunate to have got the infrastructure in addition to the expertise to displace our agenda in addition to that is to brand this surface area of behavioral wellness attention for veterans in addition to armed forces families a priority in addition to we've received a lot of national attending for it in addition to I think it's good, non for us, I mean, yeah, it's, I justice it's goodness for us but it's genuinely goodness for the profession. I mean, who would have got ever thought that we’d have got stuff nigh veterans at CSWE or at SWER. This is, yous know, this is a motion that’s happening in addition to I’m glad to consider it in addition to I’m glad to consider that we're focused in addition to interested inwards competence in addition to that we're interested inwards making sure that we're addressing the unique needs of this population in addition to we're nonetheless talking nigh World War II. We're nonetheless talking nigh Vietnam. We're going to speak nigh this population, this state of war Operation Iraqi liberty in addition to enduring liberty for the adjacent twenty in addition to xxx years.
Some families inwards the armed forces have got never seen a peace fourth dimension military. Their kids who maybe were 3 years quondam they're instantly thirteen years old. One spouse stood upward at a conference in addition to said expression Admiral (Mullen), I dear all this prevention early on intervention stuff but expression our draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement has been at state of war for 10 years. We're past times that in addition to hence nosotros demand to empathise that this is going to maintain to have got long lasting effects on our families in addition to our communities for many many years to come. I mean, we're instantly engaged inwards Libya. We only demand to live aware that these men in addition to women coming dorsum to our communities may have got unique circumstances that nosotros demand to live able to accept attention of in addition to I think that’s my passion in addition to motivation for the operate we're doing hither at USC in addition to my want to brand sure that others empathise it in addition to acquire it because if yous don’t acquire it every bit a veteran in addition to nosotros don’t connect, I’m non coming back. If I don’t come upward back, my job gets worse in addition to when it gets worse, it affects many people. It affects the community in addition to hence it’d live who’s all of us to effort to know in addition to to live every bit confident every bit nosotros tin if we're going to attention for this population in addition to if yous don’t want to attention for this population in addition to then I would tell only tell so.
You know, nosotros all know inwards social operate that if yous don’t want to operate with a sexual practice offender, yous only don’t operate with sexual practice offenders. If yous don’t want to operate with veterans in addition to armed forces families in addition to then don’t. But if yous do or you’ve noticed that they're coming inwards to your way to a greater extent than oftentimes in addition to then maybe yous demand to spin them upward in addition to acquire some preparation inwards that organisation for your providers. So, yous know, in addition to I think social operate every bit a profession needs to pace upward in addition to acquire to a greater extent than involved inwards inquiry inwards this area. If yous expression at the inquiry that’s done inwards this area, it's done past times psychology in addition to psychiatry in addition to frankly it drives me nuts.
We're social operate in addition to hence appealing to all of yous to consider doing inquiry with veterans in addition to armed forces families from our perspective, the draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement perspective, the systems perspective, the individual inwards the environs perspective because that’s what nosotros tin offering in addition to I believe that nosotros are the primary providers for this population. I know inwards the armed forces nosotros have got to a greater extent than social workers than whatsoever other provider inwards behavioral health. In DOD, nosotros have got to a greater extent than providers, mental wellness providers in addition to hence social workers render to a greater extent than mental wellness attention inwards the VA than whatsoever of the other profession. We're a leader. We're invisible when it comes to inquiry hence I’m squall for all of us to think nigh that in addition to to genuinely consider this is an surface area of feasible research.
Jonathan Singer: If at that spot are social workers out at that spot correct instantly who maybe masters level, maybe fifty-fifty bachelors flat in addition to they are getting inspired listening to yous speak nigh wanting to empathise how to best serve, yous know, either community domicile vets or anybody associated with military, tin they come upward to USC in addition to larn how to locomote a researcher? I mean, is that something that yous guys tin offer?
Anthony Hassan: Well, correct instantly in addition to the Ph.D. plan is real selective of course, but we're looking at bringing inwards a senior researcher with a armed forces social operate inquiry background in addition to hence that Ph.D. students coming to our plan tin brand this a career for themselves in addition to have got the mentorship hither inside USC. So, correct instantly we're focused on in addition to recruiting some top researchers inwards this surface area who’ll inquiry inwards NIMH, DOD, VA in addition to hence that nosotros volition have got mentors in addition to guides to educate in addition to educate the adjacent generation of social operate researches inwards the surface area of veterans in addition to armed forces families. So, yes, we're moving inwards that direction.
Surely if a student, an MSW educatee correct now, nosotros similar I said nosotros have got nigh 200 who have got identified themselves every bit armed forces social operate concentration students, nosotros have got a dyad of them who are working inwards my optic correct instantly in addition to are assisting with inquiry projects. So, this is the starting fourth dimension for them but they're showing an involvement in addition to I could tell yous having presented inwards many conferences I’m e'er asked nigh that in addition to nosotros would promise that nosotros tin grow this surface area hither at USC every bit well.
Jonathan Singer: You know some other inquiry that nosotros didn’t specifically reply in addition to maybe it's because it's answerable but what types of jobs do armed forces social workers do?
Anthony Hassan: Yeah, absolutely, yous know, where do they acquire job in addition to every way inwards the community that volition have got a veteran or a draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement fellow member in addition to step, yous know, knock on their door. It's only that some agencies in addition to some communities volition consider to a greater extent than in addition to they may – that’s all they may see. For example, the US Vets, Inc. hither focuses on the homeless veterans in addition to hence that’s their whole plan in addition to they're national in addition to they focus on cypher but homeless veterans so, yous know, nosotros have got a lot of students who have got their internships at that spot in addition to volition acquire placed there. We have, yous know, novel directions, focuses on inwardness abuse inwards veterans in addition to homeless veterans.
So, it only depends on what agency, yous know, you're involved with. We have got draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement courts instantly hence yous may operate inwards the draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement courts that focuses on veterans, veteran courts hence yous may have got an involvement inwards legal, guardian or advocacy. We have got instantly noticed that the Department of Children in addition to Families has seen a demand to improve empathise armed forces families every bit they instantly interact to a greater extent than often. The Department of Mental Health inwards Los Angeles has a whole split department for veterans hence there's job there. So, people are starting to seat sections or areas where they demand to beef upward staff inwards diverse organizations that maybe traditionally haven't focused on this every bit a split population. Of course, yous got the entire VA spectrum of employment, yous know, Veterans Affairs, hospitals, outpatient clinics, community-based clinics.
You have got vet clinics or vet centers or to a greater extent than of driblet inwards centers are instantly springing upward all over the United States. They have got navigator programs where they're helping veterans navigate services. They have got recovery attention coordinators that are social operate positions at the undergraduate flat who volition operate with a veteran from the fourth dimension they render with an injury throughout their entire life. There volition live a instance manager involved inwards their care, on in addition to on in addition to on. Schools, nosotros have got 143 schools that we're working with inwards San Diego. Ron Astor is the PI for the inquiry projection but we're genuinely edifice capacity inwards those schools in addition to hence instantly we're focusing on armed forces impact at schools in addition to nosotros have got social work, xl social workers inwards those schools who have got an agreement of armed forces civilization in addition to armed forces challenges in addition to the impact on families.
Just every way yous tin imagine that is close a armed forces facility or has a community, a large number of veterans inwards their community volition start seeing a exceptional partitioning or department inside that way to attention for veterans, non to squall all the contracting services or contracting companies that operate for the Department of Defense. For example, nosotros have got social workers overseas who operate with draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement violence in addition to hence all the draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement advocacy handling managers are social workers in addition to they're hired through a contractor, a Department of Defense contractor. So, yous tin locomote operate every bit a armed forces social worker overseas inwards the draw of piece of work solid unit of measurement advocacy program. So, I could locomote on in addition to on but at that spot are many many opportunities, yous know.
Jonathan Singer: What are some resources that are out at that spot for folks who are listening that want to know to a greater extent than nigh armed forces social work?
Anthony Hassan: Of course, the Council on Social Work Education this handbook, yous tin detect this mass online at CSWE. I’d similar the guidebook non only to guide curriculum but man child when yous paw it to the educatee in addition to yous tell them hello look, when yous complete your MSW degree, yous should at to the lowest degree have got cognition in addition to do inwards these areas. So, patch instructors in addition to agencies should expression at this document in addition to tell yeah, nosotros tin assist advance the do skills for this educatee inwards these areas. Oh yeah, nosotros tin do that or yous know what, no nosotros can't. And hence I think it's a tool for the student, the professor in addition to the field. Okay. So, that’s the CSWE document.
Another document I was only reading final night, it's called An Achievable Vision: Report of the Department of Defense Task Force on Mental Health. I only similar the report. It genuinely give yous a sense of what's needed inside the armed forces in addition to hence it talks nigh the lack of providers who are educated inwards evidenced-based intervention, the demand to maintain providers who have got armed forces civilization awareness. It talks nigh confidentiality. It talks nigh anything in addition to everything that an private would want to know nigh the challenges faced past times men in addition to women inwards uniform in addition to their families. So, I think that’s a non bad tool, I mean, a non bad document to have.
I’m looking at some documents here. I was only looking at the Institute of Medicine’s 2010 study final night. I think it's an splendid study in addition to I only sent it to all my staff squall for them to over again refresh themselves on these recommendations at the Institute of Medicine is pushing out in addition to hence yous volition acquire a genuinely a goodness sense of what's happening, what are the challenges, what are – what's the community demand to go, what are researchers demand to do in addition to what do nosotros demand to do to train, what do nosotros demand to educate them on. It's a real very dainty in addition to well-done study in addition to a mass that I read, I think is a decent read is the mass past times Hall, (2008) called Counseling Military Families, yous know, every bit a perspective of a civilian provider.
Then, of course, you’ve got Hogue in addition to Castro, their 2004 article which is the article that genuinely sort of got everybody aware of what was going on. It's called Combat Duty inwards Republic of Iraq in addition to Afghanistan, Mental Health Problems in addition to Barriers to Care. I'll live remiss though if I didn’t give yous Tonelli in addition to J. Cock’s Invisible Wounds 2008. That was the seminal work. So, I promise that’s enough. We tin locomote on with to a greater extent than but I think those 3 reports are huge. Invisible Wounds, DOD Taskforce study in addition to the Institute of Medicine’s study are only the foundation pieces that yous would demand to read nigh if yous genuinely wanted to study this in addition to larn to a greater extent than nigh it.
Jonathan Singer: Yeah in addition to we'll set the links to those on the Social Work Podcast website. You know, Anthony I want to give thank yous you hence much for spending the fourth dimension with us today in addition to talking with us nigh armed forces social work.
Anthony Hassan: Thank yous hence much for the opportunity. It was my pleasance in addition to over again this is my commitment hence anything I tin do to assist instantly in addition to inwards the future, delight don’t hesitate to telephone yell upward upon me.
Jonathan Singer: That’s great. Thank yous hence much.
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Resources in addition to references
Council on Social Work Education. (2010). Advance Practice Behaviors for Military Social Work Practice. Alexandria, VA: Author. http://www.cswe.org/File.aspx?id=42466
Department of Defense Task Force on Mental Health (2007). An Achievable Vision: Report of the Department of Defense Task Force on Mental Health. Falls Church, VA: Author. http://www.health.mil/dhb/mhtf/MHTF-Report-Final.pdf
Hall, L. K. (2008). Counseling armed forces families
. New York, NY; Taylor in addition to Francis.Hoge, C.W. & Castro, C.A. (2005). Impact of scrap duty inwards Republic of Iraq in addition to Transitional Islamic State of Afghanistan on the mental wellness of U.S. soldiers: Findings from the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research province scrap study. In Strategies to Maintain Combat Readiness during Extended Deployments - Influenza A virus subtype H5N1 Human Systems Approach (pp. 11-1 – 11-6). Meeting Proceedings RTO-MP-HFM-124, Paper 11.Neuilly-sur-Seine, France: RTO. Available from: http://www.rto.nato.int/abstracts.asp.
Institute of Medicine. (2010). Preliminary Assessment of Readjustment Needs of Veterans, Service Members, in addition to Their Families.Washington, DC: Author. http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2010/Returning-Home-from-Iraq-and-Afghanistan-Preliminary-Assessment.aspx
Institute of Medicine. (2010). Provision of Mental Health Counseling Services nether TRICARE.Washington, DC: Author. http://www.iom.edu/Reports/2010/Provision-of-Mental-Health-Counseling-Services-Under-TRICARE.aspx
Rizzo, A., Reger, G., Gahm, G., Difede, J., & Rothbaum, B. O. (2009). Virtual reality exposure therapy for combat-related PTSD. In P. J.Shiromani, T. M.Keane, & J. E.LeDoux (Eds.), Post-traumatic stress disorder: Basic scientific discipline in addition to clinical practice
. Totowa, NJ: Humana Press.Schell, T. L., Tanielian, T., Farmer, C.M., Jaycox, L. H., Marshall, G.N., Vaughan, C. H., & Wrenn, G. A. (2011). Needs Assessment of New York State Veterans: Final Report to the New York State Health Foundation. Santa Monica, CA: RAND Corporation. http://www.rand.org/pubs/technical_reports/TR920.
Tanielian, T. & Jaycox, L.H. (Eds.). (2008). Invisible wounds of war: psychological in addition to cognitive injuries, their consequences, in addition to services to assist recovery
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